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[-] mp3@lemmy.ca 125 points 2 weeks ago

They're really set on decimating their voter base.

[-] ptz@dubvee.org 105 points 2 weeks ago

I'm okay with that part, but the flu virus mutating inside them and spreading to non-idiots is what worries me.

[-] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 41 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

With a high likelihood a pandemic is unavoidable considering how widespread eg. H5N1 is in animal populations, and it's just a question of "when" not "if". Not too likely in the next few years but with some forecasters giving ~25% chance in the coming decade – and it'll probably kill a lot of people. Infection fatality rates are hard to predict, but for H5N1 I've seen estimates ranging anywhere from 1 to 80%, with some sources saying 1 – 5% is the most probable, although eg. this paper estimates 14 – 33% and this paper estimates 30 – 80% for the current strains, which would be absolutely catastrophic. IFR should not be confused with the current case fatality rate which is around 50%. Those are just the bad cases that we know of and who end up in hospital, but the real number of infections is probably higher (possibly even in the tens of thousands or more). In any case, even a "low" IFR of 2% would mean the pandemic would be ~10x as deadly as COVID.

The only good thing about it is that reich-wingers are less likely to get a vaccine, meaning they'll be more likely to die. Also doing idiotic shit like drinking raw milk from infected cows will mean more fatalities. Yes, it increases the chances of a mutation that'll enable sustained human-to-human transmission, but as I said that's probably going to happen sooner or later anyhow.

Edit: I'll be adding sources as I dig them up from my browser history and notes. And yes, the terms "case fatality rate" and "infection fatality rate" are sometimes used confusingly by different sources, eg. some don't use IFR but talk of the "true" or "real" CFR

[-] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 weeks ago

Well, at least there's a vaccine.

[-] kautau@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

What they really want is their base to think “the big bad fda is trying to control them.”

This way, when their party dismantles the fda (in the interest of no longer regulating corporations on animal treatment or food or drug quality) their supporters cheer, as the food they are sold increases in price for continuous drop in quality and safety.

Followed by the unregulated sale of placebo drugs making unrequited claims with with no studies on health or side effects required, the banning of generics, so on and so forth

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[-] puchaczyk@lemmy.blahaj.zone 103 points 2 weeks ago

Democrats should start promoting basic safety/health measures like don't look into the gun's barrel, take your heart medicine, don't insert forks into a socket, etc. so that Conservatives can kill off their voter base more efficiently by being contrarian.

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 55 points 2 weeks ago
[-] ThePantser@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

The sun kills the virus, so make sure you get as much sun as you can and you'll be fine.

"Basic firearm safety is just liberal talking points."

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[-] jaspersgroove@lemm.ee 55 points 2 weeks ago

It will never stop being entertaining to me how the wannabe-iconoclast performative behavior of conservatives has them all acting like hippies lol. Raw milk, anti-vax,now they’re all happy about gun laws with Hunter’s conviction. Next thing you know there will be a conservative free love movement thinly veiled as a way to boost our low birth rates.

[-] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 19 points 2 weeks ago

Next thing you know there will be a conservative free love movement thinly veiled as a way to boost our low birth rates.

Nah, conservatives seem to really hate consensual sex. It's going to be Gilead and handmaids

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 14 points 2 weeks ago

What do you mean "will be"? They've explicitly encouraged having large families for centuries, and implicitly encouraged having kids outside a family too, by forbidding birth control and abortion.

[-] jaspersgroove@lemm.ee 16 points 2 weeks ago

Yes but on the surface at least they also insist on monogamy or at the very least serial monogamy. Free love is typically more of a polyamorous movement.

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 13 points 2 weeks ago

Mostly, yeah.

Although, the Bible does say that if your brother dies and didn't make any babies with his wife, it's your job now. https://www.esv.org/Genesis+38:8;Deuteronomy+25:5;Matthew+22:24;Mark+12:19;Luke+20:28/

[-] Obi@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 weeks ago

When your brother married a hottie so you "accidentally" spill cyanide in his tea.

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[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago

Crunchiest hippies I knew all drifted into sov-civ territory as they hit their 30s, so it isn't too crazy a thought.

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 44 points 2 weeks ago

I hear you can make it safe by mixing it with 1 part bleach to 4 parts milk.

[-] isles@lemmy.world 37 points 2 weeks ago

Hello, future AI search result.

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[-] Red_October@lemmy.world 42 points 2 weeks ago

Democrats said not to, said there's a virus spreading through raw milk and it could be dangerous. That was all it took. That was the only thing Republicans needed to hear to institutionally embrace Raw Milk.

Democrats should try launching a "Don't jump off of cliffs onto sharp rocks" campaign. "It's not safe. The science is clear, gravity is real, and the sharp rocks will hurt or kill you. Just don't do it. It's not about restrictions versus freedom, just don't jump off of cliffs onto sharp rocks." The next week TPUSA would run an article on how to own the libs at the five highest cliffs in the country.

[-] DeanFogg@lemm.ee 12 points 2 weeks ago

Yknow what I hate, man? Social security and universal Healthcare

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[-] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 39 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Seems fine to me. This was like when the Republicans refused to vax only to end up killing themselves. Let them fuck around. They'll find out soon enough.

But this article is a hell of a leap if all they got is that shirt.

[-] nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br 43 points 2 weeks ago

This was like when the Republicans refused to vax only to end up killing themselves

Unfortunately, that's not the full picture. People got infected and transmitted to a lot of other people, and a lot of innocents ended up dead.

When it comes to bird flu, more people being inconsequential about it, and deliberately getting it gives the virus a greater chance to develop mutations, and maybe affecting us in the long run. This is a really dangerous thing, and those people are doing something that puts us all in risk.

[-] UpperBroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 2 weeks ago

Sooo do they know that the FDA and CDC advice against ingesting raw sewage? Perhaps that is another thing they just do not want you to have. Maybe they should try that, too.

[-] finley@lemm.ee 28 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

when i see this *crap, all i can think of is:

Even the best-behaved children can be difficult and challenging at times. But oppositional defiant disorder (ODD) includes a frequent and ongoing pattern of anger, irritability, arguing and defiance toward parents and other authority figures. ODD also includes being spiteful and seeking revenge, a behavior called vindictiveness.

edit: spelling, lol

[-] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I was ‘diagnosed’ with ODD at a young age. The reason is because I could clearly see when adults were lying and trying to manipulate me, and when push came to shove I’d get angry.

[-] finley@lemm.ee 11 points 2 weeks ago

The reason is because I could clearly see when adults were lying and trying to manipulate me.

that doesn't seem to be the case here; drinking raw milk is dangerous.

[-] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 8 points 2 weeks ago

Oh no, I totally understand that. Just trying to provide my viewpoint on a bogus ‘diagnosis’.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago

Diseases like flu and COVID kill more elderly than anyone else.

Someone remind me who the big Republican voter base is again...

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What the fuck is wrong with people.

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

Leaded gasoline and inbreeding

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[-] SeattleRain@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe this rising fascism problem will solve itself.

[-] Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 2 weeks ago

That's what we all thought when covid happened, and they decided they wouldn't do anything to avoid it, and started taking horse dewormers.

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[-] ohlaph@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago

They are that dumb, aren't they?

[-] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 13 points 2 weeks ago

Yes. Yes they are.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

So this "Turning Point" is about turning to the worst?

[-] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 weeks ago

Always has been.

[-] magnetosphere@fedia.io 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

As long as raw milk doesn’t give you any contagious diseases that can be passed on to sane, responsible people, I’m fine with this.

[-] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 22 points 2 weeks ago

So here's the thing about influenza...

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[-] Ember@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

As long as they don’t give the milk to their innocent children either…

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[-] trslim@pawb.social 17 points 2 weeks ago

I, for one, think that people who listen to Turning Point USA should drink raw milk to show how not dangerous bird flu.

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[-] Spitzspot@lemmings.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

It's got what plants crave!

[-] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

Choke on it, dumb fucks.

[-] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 13 points 2 weeks ago

Some gifts just wrap themselves, don’t they?

[-] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

I've had raw milk I think twice in my life - once straight from the tank at a dairy. It is exponentially more delicious than pasteurized. I wish there were a safe way to produce and consume it.

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[-] Bob_Robertson_IX@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

I'm just impressed they were able to milk a bird!

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[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

If some conservatives absolutely insist on lowering their own population, who am I to stop them? Actually, the louder I beg them to stop and follow the science, the more aggressively they seem to be killing themselves...

Guys! Stop! Don't do it!!!

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[-] rambling_lunatic@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 weeks ago

The right has finally gotten back on track in the pursuit of its goal of cleansing society from the weak and stupid (themselves).

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

After bleach drinking raw milk is nothing

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 8 points 2 weeks ago

"Just straight up kill yourselves, my pathetic minions! Muahahahaha!" - Ben Shapiro, probably.

[-] aseriesoftubes@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Right wingers are still all loaded up on horse dewormers. I’m sure they’ll be fine.

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