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I mean they paid for the flight
And they’re getting a flight.
Flights have amenities. Some give you free food, some free wifi.
None of it is actually free of course. It's just that the cost is included in the ticket price.
I don't want food or WiFi. I want legroom so I can sleep. I don't want seatback entertainment. I don't want a complimentary tea towel, blanket, and neck pillow. I don't want your stupid cheapo earbuds. I don't want Tim Tams and that little sachet of Vegemite with my toast. I don't want your gross instant coffee. I don't even want a flat white. I don't care that you have soymilk. And thay muffin you gave me has egg in it. I told you I can't have egg. I don't want your little tiny tube of toothpaste with that miniature toothbrush. I don't want to watch Adam Sandler's Wedding Singer on that screen you have on the wall in front of the aisle. I want legroom. I want to watch the insides of my eyelids. I hate having to lay my legs sideways for hours and being unable to relax or sleep because I am knees-pressed against the seat in front of me. And that camera on the seat back freaks me out. Why why why. Just let me sleep.
Sorry. I got a bit agitated there.
Camera on the back of the seat? I haven't seen that one yet, will have to bring tape on my next flight
Legroom is probably the most expensive thing to give on a plane, so if you want legroom, pay for the privilege and fly business class. Otherwise, at least try to enjoy the few concessions you get from the airline
I mean if the price of wifi is offset by showing a single ad, it seems preeeetty stingy after you already paid for a seat.
spirit CEO ^
I understood the mildly infuriating aspect to be how airlines find a way to extract value from you at every step of your trip.
For real. I'd rather watch an ad than have to pay $10+ for a couple hours of wifi.
I still open Plex and sync a bunch of shit to my phone or tablet before I take any flights. Old-school is still the way.
Plane WiFi is a modern technological marvel and you're lucky to be able to have it at all.
Not so long ago sat phones were the domain of the super rich, because they were paying several dollars per minute. Then it was down to 10 dollars for two hours of multiplexed satellite access. And now apparently it's down to where advertising will work. That's amazing.
Any plane internet I've used has been spotty and terribly slow, but then again, I haven't bought it in years because of previous experiences. I can stand to be without it for 2.5 hours.
The speed is probably because you have to share 2mbps of bandwidth with 100+ people
Plane wifi, in the Continental US, is typically done via cell networks. The plane just has stronger receivers and transmitters than your cellphone.
No, it's mostly ViaSat (like in OP's picture) now. Gogo never upgraded their infra to handle more traffic and kinda fell out of relevance. Planes with ViaSat will have large oval satellite domes on top that talk up to space.
I doubt the ads are streamed over the internet, this could easily be done with local storage.
With a possible quick database update over the internet to log views
It's a free wifi service provided by the airline while on the flight. One ad, when most other places are charging $10-20 per flight? I'll watch the single ad. I'd rather that then someone, say, injecting adverts into sites and services. which is very possible.
Agree, which is why this is mildly infuriating and not worse. Of course there were about 10 minutes of unskippable ads on their media screens before take-off which was a pleasure to be subjected to. That should get everyone free WiFi without needing an additional ad..
The more infuriating thing will be realizing that the inflight wifi is basically only good for texting and email.
At least they don't charge like $10 per hour to go at 64 kbits
More infuriating is the forced login on the infotainment screen. That's extremely infuriating
I once had a flight in two legs where the first leg was operated by a well known established airline for an okay ish price and the second leg was operated by a "sister" airline that did shorter ultra low cost flights. The first flight had infotainment screens and a few other minor comforts that are standard for economy flights these days and make it just slightly more bearable, whereas the 2nd flight had no screens, no food without paying separately and just made as uncomfortable as possible on purpose.
During the first flight, you could use their crappy as screens on the back of the chair in front or connect to their local network with your own device, which was free and didn't involve any shenanigans like ads or accounts. I made use of the service which worked by entering a URL printed on the back of the chair in front. On the second leg, there was no screens and no apparent mention of an onboard entertainment offering through your own devices but there was some sort of QR code which I assume was supposed to take you to a payment portal or something but which didn't even work. It was a different URL to the first flight.
I still had my tab open from the first flight though, and when I accidentally opened that tab on the second flight, I got access to the seemingly hidden entertainment service with no payment or logins or anything. Seems that sometimes it's just a question of knowing the magic URL.
It sucks but I like this over what target and walmart do. If you wanna use their wifi now you MUST create an account on their website and use that to login to their wifi.
Wireguard vpn+pihole and you won't need to watch those ads. Set it up to use an ntp port, and you won't have to sign in to use the wifi.
Hold up, using the ntp port to skip WiFi sign in is a game changer. Any way to do that with Tailscale on iOS?
The airplane captive portals generally don't work if you use a different DNS.
I've always had to defer to "automatic" DNS and let DHCP give me the DNS address in order to access the wifi
on the bright side they could make you watch an ad to check your bags, check in, and find your seat the way things are going
Execs are furiously taking notes right now
Shhhhhhhh
is it free? I mean you either pay with money, time and/or data.
If the ad is short and subsidizes free wifi, I ain't mad. But if the ad is unreasonably long, or if I have to keep watching ads every x minutes to use WiFi, it becomes a problem. Not sure what the case is here, but it should be spelled out on the screen so we know what we're getting ourselves into.
And they all interrupt the "in flight entertainment" to read a VERY long and slowly delivered advertisement for their proprietary credit card (and in flight entertainment that you have to supply device for, so you end up with smaller screen, unstable connection, battery drain and watched at a painful viewing angle typically)
As opposed to an open source credit card?
Proprietary, as in, branded specifically to the airline itself. Like a Allegiant credit card, for example.
Is there a way to capture these pages and report them to uBlock filter authors once online? I'd like to add a filter (or better, userscript that just enables and "clicks" the "continue" button) for my country's rail company's Wi-Fi captive portal but the JavaScript is obfuscated or compiled from another language so I have no idea what anything does, and of course the element classes are all randomized.
Can confirm that on Android with Firefox mobile + ublock origin the ads wouldn't load and you were able to skip quite fast. (Not agreeing with the ads being displayed at all, that's just a greedy move)
They can't be making much off this surely, how long would the ad have to be for it to even be worthwhile showing?
So does Delta/T-Mobile
You might be able to bypass it with Orbot and a snowflake. Alternatively don't use it.
I flew on Porter and their "ad" was just a 30 second thing about how they're a cool airline. That's fine, although the real cost is that they make you have a rewards account