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[-] ech@lemm.ee 121 points 2 months ago

They saw the invention of air travel and space travel within 70 years. As far as they were concerned, nothing was too extraordinary.

[-] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 41 points 2 months ago

Really was a marvelous run, too bad we just kinda quit shortly after we got to the nearest solar body. We send drones for recon to mars and asteroids and deep space now but haven’t made huge leaps in some time.

The promised lunar bases and Martian colonies are so far out still.. the Jovian colonies/shipyards are still pure sci-fi dreams at this point

[-] Num10ck@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago

thanks Reagan! Oh and USSR for dropping out of the race. Luckily the Los Angeles engineers were able to use their trophy wives in porno to keep paying the bills instead.

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[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago

Yeah, almost like something happened in the 70s that put the breaks on most scientific and social progress in the west.

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[-] Vespair@lemm.ee 89 points 2 months ago

Make no mistake, that is the future that we were entitled to, but which was stolen from us by capitalists and despots.

The old sci-fi writers weren't wrong in their aspirations for us, we were wrong for letting our futures be taken away from us.

[-] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 46 points 2 months ago

They thought automation would drastically reduce the amount of work someone needs to do to survive, instead of just increasing corporate profit and leading to layoffs.

[-] Vespair@lemm.ee 43 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

and it should have reduced the work as predicted

The only reason we aren't approaching Star Trek utopia is because of the unchecked greed fostered by our systems of capitalism.

There is no reason that, in a world of finite necessary work, increased automation shouldn't have freed us from the constraints of some of that work.

The fact that it hasn't isn't indictment of automation, it's indictment of unchecked capitalism.

[-] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago

Star Trek's utopia came after economic collapse and a third World War, in that order. So we actually seem to be on track so far.

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[-] Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

I wish we were exploring space more!

The monkey paw curls. We get entitled pricks, destroying labor protections to build so much wealth they've bought everything worth owning on the planet and still yearn for more.

I wish we had robots to do our work!

Another finger curls. Wealth inequality cripples the working class. Corporations consolidate to the point that everything is profit driven... locked behind paywalls or subscriptions. The only publicly available art and literature are made by robots.

I wish we could all communicate with each other!

The last finger curls, and paw crumbles to dust. Democracies around the world flounder as their populations are brainwashed by greedy CEOs in the news and media...taught to fear their neighbors and mistrust those politicians who haven't been bought and paid for. Online, they're bombarded by misinformation campaigns on every topic until they live in different realities. Diseases and pestilence once vanquished through science and cooperation return when science isn't trusted and cooperation with your fellow citizens is viewed as betrayal to your tribe. The world now burns, and it, too, crumbles to dust.

This timeline sucks, yo.

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[-] the_grass_trainer@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Excuse you, i was a child when all of that was happening 😭

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[-] quinkin@lemmy.world 71 points 2 months ago

It is the distant future of the year 2024. Our intrepid hero uses her pocket computer to argue that the world is flat.

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 40 points 2 months ago
[-] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

No that's just me. Understandable; I'm pretty tall.

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[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 57 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I enjoyed how in Foundation novels they had mathematics that could predict the outcome of the future, had intergalactic travel, had personal shields, and a bunch of other fancy shit, but they were still using tapes to record information.

For those of you born after, or near the turn of the century, you don't understand how magical the year 2000 was. It was a completely different eon, and seemed so futuristic. Conan O'Brien had a whole gig about In the Year 2000. The term "2000" was used to indicate something was fancy, or ultimate, or high-tech. 2000 was the future, and therefore amazing. We did have a sense of optimism though, that is nowhere to be found nowadays.

[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago

I loved it when he would continue to do it after the year 2000 had passed, without changing the format.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

I still use 2000 like I did in the 90's, which produces some really confused reactions from younger people.

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[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

Tbf, we still do use tape to record information. For archival, magnetic tape is still far and away the undisputed king of high density storage. We've got single tape cartridges in the 60TB range.

They just completely suck for regular access so they're limited to archival only

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[-] Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca 52 points 2 months ago

I'm actually super mad at the stagnation in the way of life.

The first manned flight was 1903, Apollo 11 was in 1969. I'm still going to work by chasing an exploding machine on four round dinosaurs, the same way someone in 1969 would. I still get hungry and homeless the same way someone in 1969 would. I have an 8 hour, five day work week just like someone in 1969 did.

This is bullshit.

[-] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 18 points 2 months ago

Almost like slave societies do not innovate, they just add slaves.

If you want cool new gadgets; kill your masters.

[-] ManniSturgis@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 months ago

But there are WAY more billionaires now!

[-] menemen@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

On the othet hand you have a super computer in your pocket.

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[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 52 points 2 months ago

And here we are with people who think the gubberment made the eclipse happen.

[-] variants@possumpat.io 17 points 2 months ago

How else do you control the masses

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[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 43 points 2 months ago

And yet somehow the lead character smokes cigarettes.

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[-] Underwaterbob@lemm.ee 37 points 2 months ago

And then there's Dune: it's the year 40'000 (or something) and mankind is fighting a religious war in the desert over natural resources. Haha!

[-] orrk@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago

to be fair, even the Dune universe had the human golden age, before the whole AI wars happened

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[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 34 points 2 months ago

Idiocracy sadly was the only futuristic story to get it right. Wall-ee probably a pretty safe bet too. At this point, any "blue future" sci-fi writers still out there are disillusioned dreamers.

[-] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

'Ministry of the future' wasnt bad, by a typically Utopian writer. Parts of it felt plausible.

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[-] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 34 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The Jetsons:

George Jetson went to work everyday at Spacely Sprockets and pushed a button. A single button. That was his whole job. The whole businesses was automated to the point George did not have to do anything except sit and press the button.

And he made enough money in that job to support a family of 4 in a nice house, as the sole bread winner.

Imagine that: A future where the benefits of automation technology are not solely for the wealthy and business owners. Automation and AI making people's jobs easier, instead of simply replacing them. Businesses that employ people to do jobs that could be automated, but don't, because people need living wages regardless of how easy the work has become.

[-] JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago

There was a joke I remember in the episode they bought Rosie, their maid-bot: Jane said she was exhausted by all the cooking and cleaning while simply pressing two buttons that said “cooking” and “cleaning”.

I also enjoy the conspiracy theory that Jetsons and Flintstones exist at the same time, but Jetsons are upper class and live in cities above the nuclear rubble, and mutant, talking, dinosaur adjacent monsters below.

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[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

UBI is starting to sound more and more appealing as AI technology has surged.

[-] Kedly@lemm.ee 11 points 2 months ago

Tbh, it was appealing to me the first time I heard of it. Its the most seamless way to transition from modern work society to post work society. It still has the same culture and incentive structure of what worked for society before, but removes the NEED to work in order to simply live

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[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Who’s to say there wasn’t a working class supporting their comfortable lifestyle, living on the ground, beneath the cloud-covered hi-rises?

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[-] EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 2 months ago

back to the future thought we would have flying cars by 2015

[-] Landless2029@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

We could actually make flying cars. It's just not sustainable.

What's missing is that garbage disposal food processor the Doc had for fuel conversion.

[-] Jolteon@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 months ago

We already have flying cars. They are called helicopters.

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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Back to the Future 2 is set 30 years in the future... in 2015.

Blade Runner was set in 2019.

[-] radicalautonomy@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

They had such high hopes for the future of humanity, but their selfish-ass boomer kids ruined the fucking planet.

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[-] Napain@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 months ago

it's 2030, the world is notching but hurricanes abd forest fires, also we got 1 guy on mars

[-] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 10 points 2 months ago

we got one guy on mars

And he's not coming back. We abandoned the program. Last food delivery gets to him in three years; after that its nothing.

Also, most people alive are survivors of sharknadoes, zombie fire, and desert oceans.

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[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

The "deep corners" of their universe probably extended bout as far as alpha centauri

[-] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 months ago

Sci-fi is merely a mirror upon society. Hopeful times? Hopeful sci-fi. Dark times? Dystopian sci-fi.

[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

In my mind, I've always suspected the reverse!

Scary times: people would gravitate toward comforting, optimistic media

Comfortable times: people would find dystopian, edgy media more appealing

I wonder if anyone has done a study on this before.

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[-] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 12 points 2 months ago

They saw us go from the wheel to cars to planes to space travel in a crazy small amount of time.

It’s not their fault everyone just decided to stop there.

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[-] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 months ago

There are a myriad of reasons we are on the shitty timeline, but a non-insignificant one to me is how terrible classic sci-fi writers were at writing humans rather than planks with faces drawn on them that periodically state the author’s views on something. The focus of sci-fi on massive space operations and colonization of other planets from the beginning was warped by a dis-interest from sci-fi writers in the positive potentialities within the human psyche that are outside the grasp of cynical structures of power and control, the part of ourselves that just wants to tend a garden in their backyard and nothing more.

I think this has lead to very hollow visions of the future that were well suited to becoming the basis for people like Elon Musk’s world view. Sci-fi looked to the stars and tried to see into the future while ignoring the one thing we can count on about the future, humans will still be humans.

(I know this is a generalization and isn’t true as a rule)

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[-] uienia@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Meanwhile Philip K. Dick writing in the late 1940s: In the 2020s humanity is almost completely extinct on account of WWIII, and Earth has been taken over by an AI who constructs more and more elaborate war robots who are hunting down the last surviving humans hiding in nuclear proof bunkers.

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