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[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 260 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Don't worry, Republicans will solve this by banning abortion and birth control nationwide!

They are always thinking of the children.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 172 points 2 months ago (4 children)

And legalizing marriage to minors. And outlawing comprehensive sexual education.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 102 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A few Republicans also rape and traffic minors just to show how dedicated they are to countering the declining birth rate!

Pizzagate was projection.

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 28 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago

They misspoke. A few don't.

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[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 27 points 2 months ago

Conservatives are thinking of the children. How is that unclear?

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Also, we need to be clear, rape is such a harsh word, it's not fair to ruin someone's whole career over a little misunderstanding like consent...

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[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 139 points 2 months ago (12 children)

There was a theory that roughly 15 years after Roe v Wade crime started decreasing because people who weren't ready for or didn't want children could now have an abortion. Many of those kids that were previously born "unwanted" were in poor households and so the kids getting to about 15 years old in those conditions would start getting into trouble and start committing crimes.

For any fuckwit that says "make better decisions then! Use protection!" I'm the result of a broken condom, that shit absolutely happens. I was a "pleasant surprise." Honestly I wish they'd have just had the abortion.

[–] JovialMicrobial@lemm.ee 47 points 2 months ago (5 children)

My sister had her first child because her birth control failed due to another medication making it less effective.

No one warned her about that being a thing that can happen with that particular med. Not her doctor. Not the pharmacist. No one said a thing.. which is super fucked up. She was married at the time, but still. They were not ready for a kid(their words)

This was almost 20 years ago so I don't remember which med it was, and I'm hoping the medical community is better about this now.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It's really honestly amazing that there are so many people in this world that don't understand that, A, married couples use birth control and have regular sex and, B, that birth control can fail.

Are they all incels are something?

[–] blady_blah@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago

"Your child its a miracle from god!" - anti abortionists

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[–] BottleOfAlkahest@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (3 children)

PSA: Antibiotics will make your birth control less effective.

Also no they do not warn most people about that.

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[–] Toribor@corndog.social 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It doesn't get brought up because it's not useful to anyone politically. Already support abortion rights? Well then lower crime rates is just a positive unintended side effect of a policy that grants women their inherent right to bodily autonomy. Already oppose abortion rights? Then you probably don't care about crime rates because you already think that abortion itself is a crime.

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[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 75 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Not to call out OP, but does anyone have this information in anything other than .png format? There's no timestamps, hyperlinks, or citations anywhere here. I'd love to send this to other people, but I'm not about to copy-pasta something that could be old or inaccurate.

[–] cowfodder@lemmy.world 78 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not the exact image posted, but this appears to be the source

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db477.htm

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

Fantastic. Thank you!

[–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 68 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (9 children)

I think this is where a lot of modern civilization is falling apart at. If you want population replacement and growth, you actually have to make it advantageous to have children, and at appropriate age for your society and culture. The GOP thinks they can do it by destroying reproductive rights, civil rights, and marriage laws, if they harm women enough they'll HAVE to be baby makers! Dehumanized baby factories! And even conservative voters are fighting against it, because it's insane and it's against our current culture. It has to work for everyone. It would be more intelligent to create free childcare, better pregnancy and birth leave for both parents, and child tax credits. They could use WIC to absorb the cost of having a child and public education sooner with preschool. If people are hopeful their children will have high education access and a stable life they will be a lot more likely to have kids. Being horrified that your children will live in a fascist theocracy and intentionally kept uneducated and poverty stricken, they might actually voluntarily avoid sex to not have kids.

[–] xenoclast@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

What if we don't want infinite growth? What about stability? Or (gasp) a population reduction so we don't destroy the planet. Have less babies. Feed the ones we have. Educate them.

[–] blackbirdbiryani@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Sure, easing into a deflating population over several hundred years is fine but tanking it and ending up with a society having to support a vastly older population ain't easy either. Better for governments to provide positive reasons to have children but there's zero chance of that.

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[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 53 points 2 months ago (11 children)
[–] caoimhinr@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago (3 children)
[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago

Pregananant???

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[–] supercargo@r.nf 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Preganté

Gurlfraynd ain't had period since she gawt pregat?

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 47 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

well that is because shareholders are wetting their pants realizing that with low birth rates they are losing both slaves and customers. Well, jokes on them, it is because of the shitty world they spearheaded (and that we followed)

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 41 points 2 months ago

It was never about stopping abortion. It’s about keeping people in poverty and creating a cycle of uneducated voters that either don’t vote or vote Republican because they don’t know better

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 2 months ago (9 children)

The reason why people aren't having kids anymore isn't because of abortion, its because: wages are decreasing (accounting for inflation), the cost of living is skyrocketing (yes even accounting for inflation), the cost of owning a home is now far too much for young people, people are working longer and more stressful hours in worse jobs for worse bosses, public areas have been destroyed leading to less in person interaction, online dating is toxic, the internet has given people heightened expectations, an unresolved mental health crisis, and people are finally becoming responsible enough to understand that you shouldn't have kids you cant afford.

[–] stinerman@midwest.social 15 points 2 months ago (9 children)

online dating is toxic

I've read some good evidence is that this is because women, especially zoomer and millennial women, are considerably more liberal than the men in their peer group. Historically, women have always been more liberal than men, but the difference between them has gotten extreme in the last 10 years. Being a Trump supporter is a deal-breaker for many single women.

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[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 36 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I think the 20-24 line is hinting at a bad economy.

[–] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You just can't hear that hint over the hint of the constant torment of the growing lower class

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[–] hessenjunge@discuss.tchncs.de 33 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

That person and the author of the article obviously suck at reading/understanding graphs. Teen pregnancies did not have a high enough percentage (and it’s good that it went down).

Also, how do you miss the drop in the age range 20 - 24 and the rise in the age ranges above 30. It’s even indicated in the title to “40 is the new 20”.

This is indicative of a bad economy. I bet if you add a graph showing the rise in rent, you will see an inverse correlation.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 months ago

I bet if you add a graph showing the rise in rent, you will see an inverse correlation.

Or about inequality of income.

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[–] tehmics@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago

It's almost like if people are able to mature enough to make an informed choice, they get a choice.

[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 23 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I have a modest proposal.

Let’s all just skip a generation and no one have kids this time. We can easily start having kids again later with a nice clean slate.

Good idea, right?

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What do you know. If it takes two people to pay the rent them two people have to work to pay the rent...

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