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[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 126 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Very cool, Coolio! I wonder how Eminem feels today. He initially gave Weird Al permission to do a music video for his parody of Lose Yourself, titled Couch Potato, but changed his mind just before Weird Al was finished filming it. Weird Al released a faked interview where he asks questions and Eminem's responses are clips of him from other interviews. It mostly centers around how much of a strong supporter of artistic expression he is and how he's against censorship of artists.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 92 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The fake interview wasn't unique to Eminem. He's been doing that since the 80s.

Here's all of them in order, starting with the first Al TV MTV special in 1984.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqD1fWGCa1A&list=PL5jyHzWb-o-2RNJbv5wMvegcXSYJlly91

[–] ech@lemm.ee 26 points 2 months ago (2 children)

starting with the first Al TV MTV special in 1984

24 years old at the time and it feels like he has barely aged since.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

he looks younger.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Laughter is the best medicine, I guess.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Know what I'm sayin'?

[–] dditty@lemm.ee 116 points 2 months ago (3 children)

RIP to Coolio. It takes a real man to admit when you're wrong - props to him for acknowledging that. It's also hard to imagine anyone legitimately "beefing" with Weird Al as well.

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 55 points 2 months ago

RIP to Coolio

Damn, had no idea he died. Looks like it was an OD, too. That sucks. :(

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

Awe man! I didn't know he died. Coolio was cool as fuck.

[–] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

RIP Kwanza Bot

[–] DaCrazyJamez@sh.itjust.works 113 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There are fewer songs that have been parodied by Wierd Al than have won Grammys, therefor making it the more prestigious accomplishment in the music industry.

[–] Skates@feddit.nl 35 points 2 months ago (5 children)

You're confusing prestigious with rare. Like how there are fewer albums that I've literally shat on than albums that have gone platinum, but me shitting on albums is rarer, not more prestigious.

[–] Wolf314159@startrek.website 75 points 2 months ago (3 children)

They may have used the word wrong, but getting parodied by Weird Al is actually more prestigious than winning a Grammy. Not because Weird Al parodies are rare, but because he only parodies songs that are actually pretty good. I have trouble believing that if the song were actually bad, playing it on accordion with jokey lyrics would be an improvement. There's no Weird Al parody of a Nickelback song, that I know of.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

Now that you say that, I really want an oompah- style song called “Phonograph”

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

but because he only parodies songs that are actually pretty good.

Counterpoint: he parodied Mmm Mmm Mmm Mmm by the Crash Test Dummies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU95v23MQ4c

(It's also his most dated song.)

[–] Wolf314159@startrek.website 7 points 2 months ago

You're not making any sense.

[–] Bertuccio@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Parodying Nickelback is also wasted effort making fun of songs that are already jokes.

[–] DaCrazyJamez@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 months ago

I meant what I said. As a musician, I would be more ho ored to have a Wierd Al parody than a Grammy.

[–] HonkTonkWoman@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago

Prestige is in the eye of the beholder, don’t discount the value of your fecal fortitude so quickly.

Poop Records could become the next NFTs!

[–] Stoney_Logica1@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago
[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 months ago

I don't think they are

[–] Bougie_Birdie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 75 points 2 months ago

This was refreshing to read.

The story I heard was that Coolio had beef right up until he got his first royalty cheque. Because of parody, Weird Al isn't required to pay a royalty, but he does anyway because he's a class act.

This looks like a story of personal growth. I'm proud of you, Coolio

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 71 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Coolio won me over when he changed his name to El Cool Magnifico half-way through Celebrity Fear Factor, which he of course won. He even changed his hairstyle to reflect the altered persona lol

[–] TheRTV@lemm.ee 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm shocked to see that someone else remembers that lol.

IIRC Ol' Dirty Bastard died around that time. I remember Coolio talking about that during his appearance.

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

We only had 5 channels when I was a kid and there was a good stretch of years where Fear Factor was always on when I got off school, I saw that episode a few times.

[–] xavier_berthiaume@jlai.lu 39 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Every thing I read about Coolio makes him appear like a super down to earth, funny as hell chill guy. I'll never forget the hot ones appearance.

[–] plant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I remember once I guest asked Sean if anyone had been seriously hurt eating the sauces, and Sean took a hard think and said, "We haven't heard from Coolio"

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 months ago

I think it was the Gordon Ramsay one. The day Coolio died there were tons of new comments on that video.

[–] LengAwaits@lemmy.world 34 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It takes a big person to cop to things like that, instead of doubling down. Whatever his reasons, we should all strive to be as open to admitting when we were wrong as Coolio was.

[–] fckreddit@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago

This is who I always aspire to be. Big enough to forgive, but also ask for forgiveness.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

He wasn't just cool, he was Coolio.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 7 points 2 months ago

Welcome to Good Burger, home of the Good Burger, where Coolios eat free.

[–] reka@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

RIP coolio. I remember the last thing I heard about him before his death was via the podcast Search Engine. He was deep in crypto and was at some sustainability in crypto conference.

[–] dwindling7373@feddit.it 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And it's not even really "his" to be mad about since, you know, Steve Wonder?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 46 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Yes and no. He took a Stevie Wonder song and made something new out of it. I would say that made it his.

I would suggest listening to the original Neil Diamond version of Red, Red Wine and the UB40 version. Basically all UB40 did was make it a more reggaeish sound and add a dub bit in the middle and they took an absolutely awful song, turned it into something new, and made it theirs.

And that is less different than Gangsta's Paradise is from Pastime Paradise.

And I think we'd both agree that Amish Paradise is Weird Al's song.

[–] Rolando@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I would suggest listening to the original Neil Diamond version of Red, Red Wine and the UB40 version. Basically all UB40 did was make it a more reggaeish sound and add a dub bit in the middle and they took an absolutely awful song, turned it into something new, and made it theirs.

Hey, I agree. Check out the Tony Tribe version from 1969, if you're not familiar with it. It kind of reinforces your point, because all these versions are so different.