As a person that packed up and moved from Florida. It was one of the hardest things I've ever done.
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Leaving Florida was one of the more joyous occasions in my life. I moved somewhere with earthquakes and wildfires, but at least my daughters will have access to reproductive healthcare and if one of my kids turns out gay or trans they won't be under existential thread. Natural Florida I absolutely love, esp when it used to be weird (a la Carl Hiaasen) but christ almighty is it a failed state.
I felt this. One of my partners cars was hit with a bat because she had a pride sticker on it. Our partner was asked to resign as a math teacher because they're trans and respected students' pronouns. By the end of COVID I was concealed carrying just to go grocery shopping.
I miss Florida wildlife deeply. I was part of Florida trail association thought I was never going to leave but life throws curve balls it's up to you to figure out how to catch them.
Won't have access to water soon though
I'm in the Indianapolis area and just got off the phone with my home owners insurance company about damage to my roof. They are attributing it to Hurricane Helene.
I hear the moon has no natural disasters......yet.
A natural disaster created the moon.
Comets and shit: "hold our space beers"
Also that argument is dead on arrival because they expect you and businesses and the entire city to pack up and leave as if it would cost nothing. They also have literally said “just sell your house and move” but like TO WHO?! Who would buy that house if it’s in such a fucked area?!
If anyone ever says “just move” you know they have zero concept of the word “community” or “moving costs” or “nuance”. They just don’t want to address the cause of the problem because they’re, at best, cowards.
If its our area (Flordia coast)... that's not a problem.
Buyers don't care. They don't know squat about flooding or hurricanes, they just come in from out of state and get dazzled by the realtor and the weather and everything and buy.
Our housing market was so crazy houses were being auctioned left and right. Market value just keeps going up, even on the coast.
TL;DR if the area is superficially attractive enough, home buyers are idiots. I realize this is probably not the case in Georgia mountains, but it his here, and its enabling a vicious cycle where builders keep building homes in obvious flood zones, where they absolutely shouldn't.
They also have literally said “just sell your house and move” but like TO WHO?! Who would buy that house if it’s in such a fucked area?!
You have to sell the story that the area is a conservative utopia where people can live free of wokeness.
Then the conservative refugees from the satanic, communist areas will flock to you to buy your land.
I will never not laugh at that. He spends so long chopping with the axe, and then drops the punchline. It's perfect.
Fucking Aquaman??
Don't forget the Submariner and Namor
Haha I literally had Ben written in but opted to remove it. Fuck Ben Shapiro.
Broad brushes don’t work. I moved out of country in my early twenties. Moved back home in my mid twenties, then proceeded to move to three different coasts over the course of the next decade, selling two homes and most belongings in the process before ultimately moving to an inland city that’s a fourteen hour drive from where I grew up and knew nobody (I’ve been here nearly twenty years now). If the area goes to hell then yeah, I’ll scope out job options and quality of life in other locations, sell my house and unnecessary belongings, and move my boys and I. It isn’t nearly as difficult as people flap about. Staying somewhere until theirs no longer a buyers market is short sighted similar to people refusing to leave Biloxi when it was certain to be destroyed (one of the places I moved out of) and folks deserve what they get if they refuse to leave. I’d love for us to fix the climate and socioeconomic issues so difficult decisions didn’t need to be made but people burying their heads in the sand and refusing to look out for themselves and their family in response to global and societal issues will never make sense to me. Control what you can control but recognize what you don’t control and adapt. If folks aren’t going to take responsibility for the things they can control I don’t see any reason to fret about the things outside of their control negatively impacting them.
I mean, you're the one who bought it currently, just find an equal or dumber person like yourself, bam. Simple. At its core, this is basically how all products are sold.
You’ve completely missed the point about community, eh? And you know people don’t get to pick where they’re born or where their extended family lives, right? So they get born into these places and get locked down for whatever reason and can’t leave. Certainly they can’t all leave in one perfect unit all at the same time.
Also that’s not how all products are sold, holy shit. Maybe certain drop shippers, sure, but that’s not how it works.
Dude it's just moving, it's not that hard. People do it multiple times in their lives. Relax.
I can tell you the other thing people do as they grow up and that is develop their own views. Growing up in Texas, I didn't realize anything was wrong or out of the ordinary politically/ideologivally. My parents had their views which initially became my views since that was what was normal in my family and community
Getting older and more mature, I realized I didn't agree with my state or parents but I also didn't have the option to pack up and leave. By the time I was able to sustain myself and build a life, I had already gotten a job, a relationship, and wanted to start building my own family. Doing that meant staying where I was since my in-laws were in the same city and my spouse didn't want to be away from them.
Even if on paper to some people it is as easy as just sell your house and leave there are complicating factors. I don't want my kids to have to deal with hurricanes, power grid failures, intolerance of others, and everything else Texas has to "offer" but at the same time, its not so easy to just bail and start again.
Ben Shapiro is never going to get rid of hus beach house, is he?
At its core, this is basically how all products are sold.
Imagine being so neck deep in the scam economy that you don't even remember that products that aren't scams exist.
The problem is a town was built where there should not be one. Flood plains WILL flood. Rebuilding is pointless. It will just be destroyed again. At some point we have to cut our losses.
“A” town didn’t flood, there’s wreckage across the entire southeast. It’s not because people in the south are too stupid to know where to build, it’s because climate change is making hurricanes stronger further inland, resulting in century and thousand year floods happening.
A drought in south america has caused out of control wildfires that dumped 210 megatons of CO2 in the atmosphere, this year alone.
That's just from wildfires in one continent. Now add it to all the CO2 produced in one year.
The runaway effects are becoming more evident and unfortunately people will have to finally give up on huge swaths of land or be killed. Save the planet, hang a CEO
And those type of floods will only increase in frequency. This is the new normal. People will need to move if they don't want to be rebuilding every couple years.
On top of what the other person said people still need to live in those places. It is actually crazy to say that the entire south-eastern seaboard of the United States should just be permanently evacuated wholesale. We could slow, or even stop, a lot of this by just admitting that climate change is real and doing something about it and it would be a helluva lot cheaper than turning several states in ghost towns.
I'm not saying to abandon the whole southeast, but something in the range of 15 million US homes are built in flood plains. A large portion of these are in Texas and Florida. It is absolute madness to keep building and rebuilding in these areas.
Even if we drop global CO² emissions to zero tomorrow, it will take more than a century to even begin to see trends reverse. In the mean time lowland areas will continue to flood over and over.
Plus, who are you supposed to sell your house to? Fucking aquaman?
One would think that the political party of "bUtT thE bIbLE!!!111one" would pay attention to the part about, ya know, even mountains flooding.
The Bible is middle-eastern propaganda anyway 🙄
Some people get lost in a desert for 40, write a book about why they were lost for so long, and now folks give up Sundays to pray away their feelings.
Some people get lost in a desert for 40, write a book about why they were lost for so long,
See, that's what not having OpenStreetMap does to a generation!
Fun fact: there isn’t any state that is safe from climate change disasters no matter what party is in power. Also, NC has a democratic governor and half of its House members are democrats.
Least affected states is/will be the Upper Midwest and even there, Republican politicians are making up for it by literally poisoning the drinking water.
Because they're cartoon villains, except dumber than Elmer Fudd.
I hear cartoon burns nicely, and can be cut pretty nicely with a guillotine.
The GOP has a supermajority in the NC House. NC has a democratic governor, who is term limited, and a right wing lt. governor. Plus the GOP state legislature went ham with gerrymandering and redistricting before this upcoming election. So the republican hold on the state might deepen.
The Appalachian mountains getting massive flooding all the time. The only places you can really build anything are along river valleys in the mountains, so they flood when big storms come through.
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All of earth is a disaster area. Extreme temps of hot and cold, tornadoes exist, wildfires, wildlife, earthquakes, tsunamis, etc.
And of course, apophis could just take us all out. 🤞
Honestly, I think we should write off the entire Eastern US at this point. Sacrifice that shit to Poseidon.
Southeasterner here. We already have.
theres a burger joint there i like tho. maybe save a smidgen, as a little treat
Spicy potatoes, corn on the cob, and cold Miller Lite always available at the replimat.
i ordered spicy corn and potatoes on the cob! lousy replicator.
The vegetarian g’rah isn’t half bad.