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    [–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 113 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    Ads?! in Ubuntu? Never! They were simply "integrating online scope results into the home lens of the dash" 🀑

    (that is an actual quote from the sentence immediately following "We’re not putting ads in Ubuntu" in Mark Shuttleworth's blog post responding to the entirely predictable backlash after they did this, twelve years ago...)

    [–] november@lemmy.vg 44 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    Mark Richard Shuttleworth (born 18 September 1973) is a South African and British entrepreneur who is the founder and CEO of Canonical, the company behind the development of the Linux-based Ubuntu operating system.[1] In 2002, Shuttleworth became the first South African to travel to space, doing so as a space tourist.[2][3][4] He lives on the Isle of Man and holds dual citizenship from South Africa and the United Kingdom.[5][6] According to the Sunday Times Rich List in 2020, Shuttleworth is worth an estimated Β£500 million. --Wikipedia

    This explains so much.

    [–] Goodtoknow@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 months ago

    He the Linux world's mini elon musk

    [–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 67 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    I remember. And how much shit the community flung towards them. And their rep is still stained with it, as it should be.

    [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 7 points 3 months ago

    The ads and the Amazon thing will follow Canonical forever

    [–] Jayb151@lemmy.world 58 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    Oh wait, they removed that? I had no idea because I stopped using Ubuntu when they put ads in the dash.

    [–] rtxn@lemmy.world 34 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

    Doesn't mean they stopped pushing their own shit in places that they have no business touching. I mean:

    > apt install firefox
    > look inside
    > snap

    And then there's Ubuntu Pro. https://feddit.org/comment/2001630

    (edit) I just realized that I could've expressed the first point using proper English, but my idiot brain immediately chose memes. I think I'm beyond help.

    [–] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

    I haven't used Ubuntu in ages but holy shit that's awful...

    [–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    They're planning on making a version where everything is a snap. Performance and usability may come later, who knows.

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    [–] IsoSpandy@lemm.ee 53 points 3 months ago

    That was the first time I tried Linux with the free and open thing. I didn't know much back then and when I saw the ads, I was like... Ooohhh this is ad supported crap. Nope... Not at all

    Fucking distro kept me away from my spirit penguin for 2 years before I realized it was ubuntu's fault.

    [–] kirk781@discuss.tchncs.de 46 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    They were heavily panned for that back then. My image of Ubuntu of that time is heavily associated with their Unity desktop which they latter dropped(only for it to spring up again).

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 37 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    I still think they should never be able to escape the controversy. It was 10 years ago but the possibly that it could be reintroduced still exists.

    [–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    They've never given me the vibe that that reversal of course was permanent, or that other things they do aren't similarly anti-user

    [–] laurelraven@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    In many respects, I think the scare manipulation they're pulling when someone updates their system up try to get them to buy their subscription service is worse, implying that they won't be getting all of the security patches they need otherwise

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    [–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    I liked Unity. Like, a lot.

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    [–] potentiallynotfelix@lemdro.id 33 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    This is precisely why I dislike and don't recommend Ubuntu, to this day.

    [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    They lost so much trust when they did that, truly an insane, shortsighted decision.

    [–] potentiallynotfelix@lemdro.id 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    Not just Ubuntu, but Canonical as well.

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    [–] regnare@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    Same, I just use standard Debian now, works great for me.

    [–] dan@upvote.au 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

    I was using Debian on desktop for a while. I've been using Debian on servers for over 20 years so I figured it's a good choice. I liked it, but ended up switching to Fedora. The only Linux distro I can use at work is Fedora (we use a modified version of Fedora) and I liked it enough to start using it at home too.

    I appreciate the newer packages, especially for things like KDE Plasma and the Nvidia drivers. For example, Fedora had KDE Plasma 6.1 before Debian had even started packaging 6.0 for experimental.

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    [–] barsquid@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    That's also the stop I disembarked that train for desktops. I don't know why I continued using them for some servers but their behavior with Snaps has me leaving for good.

    [–] potentiallynotfelix@lemdro.id 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah Canonical is the Google of GNU/Linux

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    [–] Naich@lemmings.world 26 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    At least they learned and stopped doing it.

    [–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 32 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    The ads are inside the terminal now

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    [–] corvett@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)
    [–] krakenfury@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 3 months ago

    I don't. I migrated to Arch in 2011 or 2012 btw. Fuck I feel old.

    [–] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 months ago

    Pepperidge Farm remembers

    [–] ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Huh, I was using Ubuntu as my daily driver circa 2014 and I don't remember this at all... maybe I stopped just prior to them implementing it... or maybe it just didn't make enough of an impression for me to notice.

    [–] Glitch@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    It was also fairly easy to disable

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    [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago

    It could have been earlier? i tried Ubuntu around 2012. I didn't know how to get rid of the Amazon stuff, and it turned me off Linux...thinking why use this OS that is ad based....wasn't till 2017 when W10 made our computers slow that I tried linux again.

    [–] rolling_resistance@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I missed all the fun because there was no ads in my country, and the Amazon app was just a weird western thing removed right away. Unity was pretty good though.

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    [–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    This may be kind of a dumb question, but would it affect Mint in any way if Canonical were to reintroduce ads? I know Mint's a fork but I'm not sure how integrated that part of the OS is.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 14 points 3 months ago

    Probably not as the Mint Team would either not be affected or they would have a cow.

    When snap came out the Mint team got pissed and started maintaining the packages removed from Ubuntu

    [–] muhyb@programming.dev 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    It wouldn't be worse than snap integration which Mint already doesn't use. Also Mint have a backup plan called LMDE if things go sour.

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    [–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    This shit probably put me off trying out Linux for years.

    [–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    Hopefully you've tried another distro by now, and also know to avoid big corporate distros best you can

    [–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    Been using Mint for a few years now.

    [–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    I was digging LMDE until my 8GB of ram simply couldn't handle the load and I'm in AntiX now. Honestly, I've watched Mint go from being immature and insecure to security leaders without losing their accessibility. Solid and incredibly important distro if you ask me

    [–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    Yeah, me too. I quit X the moment Musk took over.

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    [–] Voyajer@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

    Yup, that was when I switched off ubuntu to debian

    [–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago

    Not ads, actual Amazon search results. The good old times when Big Tech wasn't so radicalizingly big.

    [–] nichtburningturtle@feddit.org 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    didn't they also put ads for ubuntu pro in your .bashrc?

    [–] mrvictory1@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

    That's still there but it appears when you use apt, it's not in .bashrc.

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