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[-] pro3757@programming.dev 116 points 1 week ago

It's in Intercal, a joke language from '70s. Mark Rendle describes it here in his talk at NDC. This whole talk is ridiculous btw.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 164 points 1 week ago

This is the same language where you have to say PLEASE sometimes or it won't compile. But if you say PLEASE too much, the compiler will think you're pandering and also refuse to compile. The range between too polite and not polite enough is not specified and varies by implementation.

[-] Whelks_chance@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

I love how arbitrary, cultural and opinionated that must be to work with. You'd learn something about the implimenter of the compiler by using it for a while.

[-] c0smokram3r@midwest.social 12 points 1 week ago

This is hilarious!

[-] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 72 points 1 week ago

Wh... what do you mean, "originally as a joke"?

[-] rand_alpha19@moist.catsweat.com 40 points 1 week ago

That sounds like a fucking nightmare. I had to troubleshoot poorly-written-yet-somehow-functional GOTOs a lot when I was a BAS technician and that's annoying enough.

[-] mossy_@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago

Guy who worked at my place before me kept using these and GOTO statements all over the place.

His name? Cotton-eyed Joe

[-] match@pawb.social 8 points 1 week ago

Reference to Cottoneyed Joe considered harmful

[-] mossy_@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I almost spat out my drink when I saw this

[-] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Thanks for the catchy tune, now the song sticks in my mind again. Last time was long time ago. :)

[-] lseif@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 week ago

where did you COMEFROM where did you GO.....TO

[-] match@pawb.social 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

where did you COMEFROM, cottonEyedJoe2

[-] s12@sopuli.xyz 34 points 1 week ago

PLEASE COMEFROM 🏷

[-] neo@lemy.lol 30 points 1 week ago

COMEFROM is my go to function;

[-] onlinepersona@programming.dev 27 points 1 week ago

I honestly thought C++ (aka dumping ground of programming concepts) would implement this for "completeness".

Anti Commercial-AI license

[-] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 week ago

They should add it in C++26

[-] uis@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago
[-] MajinBlayze@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago
[-] polonius-rex@kbin.run 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

shut your mouth

[-] RiikkaTheIcePrincess@pawb.social 21 points 1 week ago

Aaahhh, this is horrifying! You've ruined my breakfast 🙀

[-] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 week ago

TBH I fail to see the significant difference between this and a function declaration.

[-] sxan@midwest.social 29 points 1 week ago

Doesn't it steal control flow? More like a break point, except you define where execution continues.

I wonder if it's a compile error to have multiple conflicting COMEFROM statements, or if it's random, kind of like Go's select statement.

How awesome would it be to be able to steal the execution stack from arbitrary code; how much more awesome if it was indeterminate which of multiple conflicting COMEFROM frames received control! And if it included a state closure from the stolen frame?

Now I want this.

[-] davidgro@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

I wonder if it's a compile error to have multiple conflicting COMEFROM statements

I think there's at least one INTERCAL implementation where that's how you start multi-threading

[-] magic_lobster_party@kbin.run 12 points 1 week ago
print(A)
print(B)
hello: print(C)
print(D)
print(E)
comefrom hello
print(F)

This will print A, B, C and then F. D and E will be skipped because of the comefrom.

[-] palordrolap@kbin.run 6 points 1 week ago

I'd say it's more like setting up a handler for a callback, signal, interrupt or something along those lines.

Function declarations by themselves don't usually do that. Something else has to tell the system to run that function whenever the correct state occurs.

That doesn't account for unconditional come-froms.¸but I expect there'd have to be a label at the end of some code somewhere that would give a hint about shenanigans yet to occur. Frankly that'd be worse than a goto, but then, we knew that already.

[-] polonius-rex@kbin.run 5 points 1 week ago

it's semantic

at the end of the day everything boils down to sequence and branchifs

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago

A function will be called by code and go to that point in code. To implement functions, you store necessary things to memory and goto the function definition. To implement that with comefrom you'd have to have a list of all the places that need to call the function as comefroms before the function definition. It'd be a mess to read. We almost never care where we are coming from. We care where we're going to. We want to say "call function foo" not "foo takes control at line x."

[-] sudo@programming.dev 4 points 1 week ago

Its like if subroutine bar could say its going to execute at line N of routine foo. But if you were just reading foo then you'd have no clue that it would happen.

You can simulate this effect with bad inheritance patterns.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago

am i the only dumb fuck here who unironically likes this?

would make goto type situations much more usable

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 week ago

I don't see any case where this is better than a goto. A goto you can read progressively though. A comefrom you'd see written then have to track to that piece of code and remember there's a potential hidden branch there.

[-] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

It's basically a simpler version of a callback

[-] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago
[-] lseif@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 week ago

more practical than goto

[-] starman@programming.dev 4 points 1 week ago

Looks like C# 12 interceptors:

[InterceptsLocation(@"C:\testapp\Program.cs", line: 4, column: 5)]

I know it looks awful, but it's not intended for direct use, but rather for source generators for native ahead of time compilation.

https://andrewlock.net/exploring-the-dotnet-8-preview-changing-method-calls-with-interceptors/

[-] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You’re gonna love HCF then!

[-] jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 week ago
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