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Ente encrypted open source alternativ to Google Photos. Can be self hosted and supports S3 backend (ente.io)
submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by victor9@lemmy.ml to c/opensource@lemmy.ml
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Been trying it for a little while. It's exactly what I have been looking for.

  • Works great
  • is encrypted
  • can be self hosted
  • edge ML for photo search (not perfect yet)
  • S3 backend #ente @ente@mstdn.social
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[-] Unskilled5117@feddit.de 64 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I downloaded the mobile app (ios) and i don’t see any way to connect it to your own selfhosted server. You can only create an account with them. Didn’t look further, but it would be pretty weird to first have to create an account with them and only afterwards being able to connect to your own server.

Edit: The access is just deeply hidden. You have to tap 7 times on the login in screen in the app to enter developer settings. There you can enter your own server.

https://help.ente.io/self-hosting/guides/custom-server/

So yeah thumbs up from me!

[-] shield_gengar@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 weeks ago

This is why I just used immich instead; couldn't find a way to self-host ente. Maybe I'll give it a go again.

[-] trevor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 weeks ago

They only just added the option to use a self-hosted instance a few weeks ago, if I remember correctly. If it's not there now, it should be there soon.

[-] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 37 points 3 weeks ago

Anyone have an Ente vs Immich comparison?

[-] warmaster@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Immich got bought by FUTO, how that plays in the long run remains to be seen.

[-] TheHobbyist@lemmy.zip 30 points 3 weeks ago

I'm a customer and have moved over multiple family members, everyone seems happy. Their face recognition and smart search are still WIP, but they are impressively present, despite being all E2EE, by leveraging local processing. They are making very good progress.

[-] lustrum@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago

Considering this also. Currently we're all on my google one plan, however I want to move away.

Any tips?

[-] TheHobbyist@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 weeks ago

Yes, actually it can be quite straightforward. What you are probably best off doing is requesting a google takeout and upload that takeout to Ente directly. I have not followed this process myself so I can't say much about it but it is described here and is probably the easiest way to migrate:

https://ente.io/faq/migration/from-google-photos/

[-] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 21 points 3 weeks ago

I have around 800 GB of photos from me, my dad and my fiance. That would be $ 20 a month. Ok, still not bad, I don't think I could get it much cheaper on a VPS.

For now what I'm doing is running https://immich.app on my laptop at home with a connected external USB drive. It's not e2e encrypted, just with ssl on https. But other than that it seems to have similar functionality.

[-] SeeJayEmm@lemmy.procrastinati.org 16 points 3 weeks ago

B2 is about $5/TB.

If you keep your eyes open for deals (LowEndBox) you could find an inexpensive storage VPS. I've got one now providing 2 TB for $5/mo.

[-] Father_Redbeard@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Damn, that's a great price. Who is your VPS provider so I can keep an eye out for similar deals?

[-] victor9@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

Would like to hear how it workes out for you if you decide to transfer all 800 GB

[-] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 3 points 3 weeks ago

I also really wonder, they say face recognition and ML categorization happen on the edge. I guess this would drain the battery quite a lot doing it for the 800 GB and it will take forever.

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 12 points 3 weeks ago

I really like Immich and it works great for me. But I will be setting up Ente authenticator self hosted at some point

I can't tell you how long I've wanted to have a self hostable authy alternative with mobile and desktop apps plus a web portal.

[-] gaylord_fartmaster@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

I can't tell you how long I've wanted to have a self hostable authy alternative with mobile and desktop apps plus a web portal.

Why not just use one of the password managers that also support this? Vaultwarden also has all that.

[-] KryptonNerd@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 weeks ago

Lots of people like to keep their 2FA separate from their password manager, so that there isn't a single point of failure

[-] gaylord_fartmaster@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Sure, but if you're already going to have your 2FA codes available from anywhere you could possibly want them like that then you're already sacrificing security for convenience.

I'll still take my chances with my LAN/VPN-only accessible Vaultwarden instance that manages both passwords and TOTP over anything internet-accessible that handles just one, but to each their own.

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 1 points 3 weeks ago

I like them separate, call me weird. I already run Vaultwarden

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Someone should get it added to this git project comparing different open source photo libraries.

[-] anzo@programming.dev 6 points 3 weeks ago

Author of that list reached out devs here, https://github.com/ente-io/ente/issues/983

[-] Cover_czar@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 weeks ago

Can I expect ente servers from usual Foss providers ᕕ(ᐛ)ᕗ Its encrypted and can be self hosted so public servers are possible??

[-] victor9@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago

Can't see why not. Personally I'll be paying for them(ente) to host it for me to support development.

[-] QuizzaciousOtter@lemm.ee 6 points 3 weeks ago

I recently migrated to their hosted plan and can highly recommend. It's as close as you can get to Google Photos with E2EE right now.

[-] Father_Redbeard@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago

I'd love to try it out but only self-hosted. And so far I can't get it spun up. To be clear, I'm sure that's a me problem. That said, the instructions are pretty spartan and a few commands to run and "that's it. you can now create an account and login!" but that doesn't work for me.

I currently have Immich running and it's good. But I've had two updates break my install, requiring hours of work to get it back to working reliably. They have a disclaimer that this can happen and isn't ready for production yet, so I don't fault them for that. I'm just on the hunt for something more reliable. Ente seems like it's been around a good while. I just need to figure out what I'm doing wrong. The S3 backend is a pretty great feature, imo.

[-] MayonnaiseArch@beehaw.org 2 points 3 weeks ago

I got Photoprism, it works much better than immich in that it works and doesn't break. Satisfied my needs, although you need a bunch of android apps. Still, it works and doesn't give me any lip

[-] Father_Redbeard@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

I've heard good things. I will admit I don't like hiding features that I would consider to be essential behind a paywall. But I may have to give it another try.

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[-] toastal@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago

Since we are making open source apps and building with continuous community feedback, effectively our GitHub and our Discord are our offices.

— Contact Page

Soo the only way to really communicate with your free software project that is all about self-hosting & privacy is thru fully-closed, US-based services with ads & ToS that let them track you. Way to practice what you preach.

[-] Specal@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Most people don't use federated services. I know it's ironic that an open source project isn't using open source channels, but sometimes it's best to stick to services that are easy access and popular.

I'm sure if enough people got in contact about using open source communication they would likely attempt it.

[-] BaumGeist@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago

Not to mention that self-hosting/federation comes with a million small headaches.

If the devs are paid, do you want to pay them to work on the project or work on maintaining a contact infrastructure?

If they aren't paid, do you want them using what little free time they have working on the app or working on maintaining a communications network?

If it's someone else's forum/matrix/chat server, are you okay with 1. a third party having access to your communications and 2. being able to force a comms blackout for any reason whatsoever?

Or would you rather they use their time and money focusing on finding a provider who meets every need of the project AND every user?

[-] toastal@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

These do not meet the philosophical or privacy needs of users. Look at how the Switch emulator situation was handled where one megacorporation told another megacorporation to shutdown their communications & they did. Look at how US sanctions prevent users form touching these platforms. Look at how the feds & advertizers use all the collected data.

[-] Specal@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

You said it better than I could

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[-] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago

They are also on Mastodon and Matrix. If you cite stuff from the website, at least read it properly. You had to scroll down to the very bottom to find the link to that contact page, right above it you can see a whole bunch of other (including federated) platforms.

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[-] Sunny@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 weeks ago

Ente really keeps on giving and improving their services, very happy to be a customer!

[-] Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago

It looks like a great service, but since I’m already paying for cloud storage (kDrive from Infomaniak) I wouldn’t want to have another subscription.

Although I wouldn’t mind paying once for an equivalent to Google photos which would be storing and going through my pictures on my cloud storage.

Does anyone knows if such a program exists?

[-] istanbullu@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

you lost me at s3 backend

[-] flux@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

If you want to have multi-host redundant storage at home (via e.g. minio or ceph), S3 is a pretty good protocol to provide it.

S3 is nice in the way it's not a file system so it can have relaxed semantics, while also providing secure access to individual files over HTTPS via URL signing.

Some people seem to be stuck in the idea that S3 means cloud hosting. Not sure if that was your view, but it's worth spelling out sometimes.

[-] makeasnek@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Thank you for posting this. I did not know that S3 can equal anything aside from "amazon hosts this". TIL

[-] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah anything which implements "S3" like Minio or some other cloud provider will work just fine.

[-] charles3@scribe.disroot.org 1 points 3 weeks ago

And it was yesterday when I found it was possible while browsing the OVH website (was checking if they have static sites, they don’t seem to)

[-] istanbullu@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

thanks, this was very helpful

[-] krysel@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago

Funny, its the one that caught my eye and made it interesting to me.

[-] delirious_owl@discuss.online 1 points 3 weeks ago

So give the data to Amazon instead of Google?

[-] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 9 points 3 weeks ago

There are a lot of S3 compatible backend that are not amazon

[-] AnActOfCreation@programming.dev 3 points 3 weeks ago

It can be encrypted...

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