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[–] KeepFlying@lemmy.world 174 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Cool. Now all of Google Drive is blocked because one guy hosted a movie there for a few days.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 134 points 8 months ago (1 children)

All it would take is someone getting AWS blacklisted for an hour, that law would disappear like it never existed.

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[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 122 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Hahahahaha

Unintended consequences - what are they going to do once 90% of connections are encrypted, include use of VPNs and encrypted DNS?

This is what they're promoting.

Host your own encrypted DNS on a VPS in a non-compliant location, use a VPN to connect to it.

So many ways these idiots are cutting their own throats.

Also, let's list the companies rather than say "Movie Industry". Or let that be a link to a Wiki article listing all the companies and their holdings.

Fuck em all at this point. I go to maybe 2 movies a year, at most. And I'm cutting subscription services, down to 2 at this point.

[–] khorovodoved@lemm.ee 40 points 8 months ago (15 children)

As a guy from Russia, I must admit that vpns are not a big problem for censors. They can be easily blocked, including self-hosted ones by protocol detection. And DNS would not do much with IP and clienthello-based blocks. And most users are not enough tech-savvy to constantly switch to new protocols as old ones get blocked.

[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 40 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (6 children)

You have no rights in Russia.

VPNs can't be categorically banned in the US without major first amendment issues. It's not a huge technical issue, but unless the courts just throw out the Constitution (a risk that we're seeing too much of, but still a meaningful bar to cross), there are huge legal barriers to doing so.

Your government doesn't need to care about legal barriers because you have a dictator who can act unilaterally.

[–] redfox@infosec.pub 28 points 8 months ago

We are just a little behind trying to elect our new dictator...

But just for a day...

/S 🙄

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[–] noxy@yiffit.net 112 points 8 months ago (10 children)

an industry which throws away finished movies because they don't want to spend the money to release it?

yeah nah, you're disqualified from an opinion on piracy.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 17 points 8 months ago

Justice for Coyote Vs. ACME

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 107 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] dumbass@lemy.lol 50 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I have found and become a big fan of tv shows that I would have never had the chance to see because of piracy, one of my favourite shows 'Corner Gas' never once aired in my home country. Thank you piracy for helping me find good entertainment.

[–] akakunai@lemmy.ca 19 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Never thought a single non-canadian would have even heard of Corner Gas lol

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[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 106 points 8 months ago (12 children)

From the article...

He also told the audience that pirate-site operators "aren't teenagers playing an elaborate prank. The perpetrators are real-life mobsters, organized crime syndicates—many of whom engage in child pornography, prostitution, drug trafficking, and other societal ills.

I'm honestly surprised they didn't throw the word 'terrorist' into that description as well.

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago (1 children)

...Many of whom engage in child pornography, prostitution, drug trafficking, murder, terrorism, poisonings, Hentai, bad DIY, unsolicited advice, telling women to smile, wearing JNKOs, hacking banks, and NOT FLOSSING!

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[–] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 82 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

Legally guaranteed corporate profits, with enforcement funded by taxpayers.

We should abolish this practice.

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[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 81 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Imagine how much money the movie industry would have if it stopped wasting time and effort on the false idea that 1 download = 1 lost sale.

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 38 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago

But remember, when it comes to doing a public good/service/education/etc, the government is perpetually broke and can afford nothing.

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[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 76 points 8 months ago (15 children)

Isn’t it fucking crazy that “industry demands ____” is likely to come to fruition, but “group of individuals demands XYZ” isn’t likely to change shit?

I demand better living conditions. We all demand an economy that doesn’t favor the rich. Not shit will change.

Companies “demand” shit and then just literally write the laws and hand them to legislators who pass them.

[–] mPony@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago (1 children)

literally write the laws and hand them to legislators who pass them

Remember, they pass them without reading them.

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[–] diffusive@lemmy.world 69 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What year is this? 2008?!? Now we have Netflix and piracy is not a problem, right? Oooohhhh right they decided to kill the golden egg chicken but they still want the eggs

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[–] restingboredface@sh.itjust.works 69 points 8 months ago (7 children)

I still don't understand why they keep going after piracy when it is a symptom of the bigger problem. Movies today are expensive and often made inaccessible through BS digital services that periodically just make films and TV unavailable to save server space or avoid paying for licensing.

I would guess that the vast majority of people are not pirating content. I'd also guess that if digital providers and studios would actually try to change the distribution model that allows customers to buy content that is later turned off on a whim, they would see meaningful change in piracy activity.

[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 61 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Because piracy is the boogieman that allows them to wrestle more power and profit from everyone around them like the parasites they are. They want a cut every time anyone ever watches something, ever. And they want to control if you even have the option of what to watch.

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[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I live in the EU, have all major streaming subscribtions within the family, and we couldn’t watch Terminator 2 anywhere. One of the most famous classic action movie, not even available for purchase on Apple TV.

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 65 points 8 months ago (4 children)

I demand laws requiring the movie industries to throw any IPs they don't want to use or any movies they don't give reasonable and simple access straight into the public domain

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 59 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Wage theft and fraud poses a larger threat to the economy. Rather than hiring 20 million dollars of internet policing to save zero dollars of the economy could we get 20 million dollars of police that prosecute fraudsters and shitty employers?

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[–] db2@lemmy.world 59 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The parasites that keep the money aren't the "movie industry", the people who actually work to make the movies are.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.social 23 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"you don't get any residuals because the movie is still in the red decades later"

[–] Syn_Attck@lemmy.today 21 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Mmm Hollywood Accounting... Misappropriate my residuals harder daddy!! 💦💦💦

[–] iegod@lemm.ee 49 points 8 months ago

Fuck 'em. Pirate more.

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 45 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Oh no, now I will have to pay $50/mo to re-watch marvel movie 832 and an action movie where the main character has to go on a 2hr quest for revenge after someone shot their pet.

...I barely watch movies anymore, there's not been a ton of great new stuff imo. I'm so sick of subscriptions, too.

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[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 44 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I would propose a law that states " All companies must keep their data away from the Internet. If the data ends up in the Internet then it's up for grabs by anyone"

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[–] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 44 points 8 months ago (6 children)

The movie industry can't bother to provide and preserve the movies they make, they should shut the fuck up.

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 41 points 8 months ago

USDoJ: How about no.

Oh, right. This isn't 1992 when the DoJ had balls and a constitution.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 40 points 8 months ago

"They are deying us our Corporate Right to Profit!!!"

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 35 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Okay, I’ll use my own DNS provider

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[–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 34 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Half a year later, additional categories are added for CSAM. And another year later for illegal copies and cracks. All the while some states openly missuse it against porn and abortion. We know that game already!

[–] hightrix@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

But did you even think of the children?

Sounds like you just want to hurt those precious little ones.

How dare you!!!!!!!! /s

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 32 points 8 months ago

Anyone have a list of legislators who are also investors in VPN companies?

[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 32 points 8 months ago

They can go F themselves

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 29 points 8 months ago

For all the random crap American ISPs have done, the one thing they usually don't do is piracy monitoring unless they get paid a premium to do it.

Like Disney pays ISPs and other data companies to track torrent peers and report any IPs in the USA. But I bet you at&t would not care at all if they weren't being paid for it lol.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 29 points 8 months ago

Service Provider

Not Service Regulator

They shouldn’t have any knowledge of what websites people visit

[–] tux@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago (3 children)

If it's that big a deal go after the service providers for the servers, this type of shit just makes inhibiting free speech easier.

If I don't want people using Truth Social I guess making a bunch of accounts to share torrent links would be enough to shut it down?

The MPAA still has never been able to demonstrate that privacy even has actual impacts on movie and ticket sales... When Netflix was super convenient and had a lot of content piracy went down. Turns out splitting to dozens of streaming services made it difficult enough that people just went back to sailing the high seas. So lower your prices, make it more convenient to pay for services and people will just do that instead.

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[–] BreakDecks@lemmy.ml 27 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Piracy websites should add a copy of the U.S. Constitution to their websites. Just slap a "/constitution.html" on the site.

Then, if the MPA succeeds, we can talk about how the U.S. Government is blocking access to hundreds/thousands of copies of the Constitution online.

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[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 24 points 8 months ago (13 children)

Frankly combining the recent and less recent events - I think fuck them.

I can understand selling a book or a movie and it being theft to download a copy. It's at least logically consistent - you show someone something with a condition that they pay you, it's dishonest to look and not pay.

But owning characters and universes and their names and so on?

And these laws not being used against "AI" firms?

All at the same time?

No. Right is about compromise. They don't do that, so we don't owe them anything. And let them obey what is made for their benefit first.

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[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 23 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Instead of being contempt with one yacht, they're gonna do what they can to have zero.

When A24 and state run film studios like Vicscreen are the only ones making anything remotely worth the box office, you have a problem, and burning down the barn to stop the foxes from all those delicious hens aren't gonna fix it. Just more socialized losses.

[–] _sideffect@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago

And when people demand living wages, or properly priced housing, or affordable food, that shit doesn't matter right?

Fuck the movie industry.

They were doing just fine until people started to hate theatres and so their main source of ripping people off faded away.

[–] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago
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