The MPAA really is grasping for straws aren't they. Ever since people were able to stream movies during the pandemic and found it was a much cheaper more enjoyable experience, they have been trying to invent ways to drive people back to the theaters. Now they are suffering major block buster busts and they have to point the finger at someone so they think, "it's those darn Reddit pirates!" Its funny that they don't realize they caused their own demise. But really I wonder, why specifically 2011?
this post was submitted on 07 Jul 2023
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2011 is well outside the Statute of Limitations for infringement...
That's three years with some wiggle room for ongoing infringement.
This is likely an intimidation/shakedown thing.
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Right? Yeah, piracy is the reason people don’t go to the movies. It has nothing to do with the overpriced, nasty concessions (cold, overly salty popcorn), dirty floors, uncomfortable “reclining” seats, gimmicks (4DX, RPX, XD), staff that can’t be bothered to turn off the lights at showtime or properly configure the sound systems. All while you’re paying $15 per ticket and $30 on snacks.
These morons live in an entirely different world.
Not to mention the comparison between watching a movie at home, where you know it will be silent, versus the risk of having at least one (but often more) groups of people who will not shut the fuck up the whole time.
The gap between reality and what corporate shills who probably don't even use their own product think is reality is ever widening.
It's funny because we subscribe to the AMC A-List and go to the movies quite a bit (obviously this is in the US). But it's because a) we have a couple of AMC theatres close by, and b) it's just me and my spouse, no kids involved. So it's something that to us is worthwhile (having a night out a few times a months to see a movie on the big screen). Also, we never buy concessions. I can't imagine how an average family with a bunch of kids can just go and drop over 100 bucks on tickets and concessions on any given night.
I think they are short staffed aka underpaid.
Agreed. That means that the current business model for movie theaters is unsustainable.
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Now is a good time to remind users that you are placing some trust in the instance that you use. Lemmy is not anonymous. It is pseudo-anonymous. Your instance can do pretty much anything with your account up to and including turning your account into a sock puppet, and they know exactly where you're connecting from.
With that said, it's a lot better than most social media today that actively tries to violate your privacy at every turn.
This is part of why I signed up through FMHY. If anybody is going to try to protect my privacy it is probably going to be the very actively pro-piracy group.
To add to this: some instances require your email address, and others don't.
Obviously there are plenty of other ways you won't be really anonymous, but if it's important to you, one step in mitigating issues is not to have an email associated with your account.
You can always use https://10minutesemail.net/ for the required email. No muss no fuss
I've been partial to https://mailinator.com, but some services are getting wise to it (and blocking *@mailinator.com addresses). Thanks for sharing an alternative!
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Scary but hey at least Reddit isn't handing out the info so easily in this instance
Would be mad.
There are many topics people discuss that are problematic. Forget piracy. What about people from authoritarian regimes, people from countries that are in danger to fall to authoritarians, even if they haven't yet. Anything from years ago could become problematic if the wrong government gets into power.
Making jokes about God is no deal under some regimes, it's blasphemy in others.
Drugs are a problem in a lot of countries, and a literal death sentence in some.
Making fun of a fringe politician is nothing when they are not in power, but becomes a problem if they get into power.
I am sure Reddit gives some data in cases of actual danger, which is fair. But if they start to hand out data for something minor like piracy, it's going to be a problem for discussion on the discussion plattform.
They will if they get a nickel for doing it.
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In a way this does make me slightpy concerned about Lemmy servers, Reddit has a team of lawyers and tonnes of funds behind it to fight pointless demands like these
A lot of server owners won't and will be much easier to coax into giving up information about it's users
The thing is, chasing individual instances is a game of whack-a-mole, with a lot of downside and not a lot of upside. Established companies follow laws and regulations because they are easy targets, with local assets, offices, and public figures that are worth serving/seizing and can be compelled to comply to court orders. How TF you going to enforce a court order in a country that doesn't recognize your jurisdiction or laws?
The other thing thing is, if you run an instance with moderation rules that skirt the law, you are incentivised not to log personal information and disseminate it because a) that makes you a target, and b) you'll get called out by your own users for logging and leaking IPs, and people will just move to a different server.
It seems pretty obvious to me that you should assume at all times when you are online that you are basically in a public space, like in a public cafe: People can see you, even if the fact that they are not paying close attention to you creates the illusion of privacy. If you start doing something to stand out, people will start to pay attention to you, and it's all visible to see unless you actively take precautions to hide your identity. That starts--but doesn't end--with not browsing piracy on main.
It seems strange to me how many these days openly discuss piracy, and what they are doing, how often, etc.... It's one thing to give vague instructions or point someone towards a website. But to actively say, 'I downloaded X, from Y. It worked great.' and/or 'I've downloaded loads from X, I have over a thousand X, and they all work.' it makes me cringe.
Possibly has to do with age. Piracy started for me by exchanging tapes of Dragon 32 games, and I guess recording the top 40 on a Sunday. You kept a low profile. I didn't think I would get caught. My father was friends with a policeman who was our main source for pirated VHS videos and many games. So I felt whilst it was illegal, nobody gets caught unless you put your head above the parapet. That's the point today, many seem to be a little too carefree. Helping each other out is great, and after all, piracy is about sharing. But do try and cover your tracks. Be sensible.
Silly nonsense. Just cause I said I downloaded something isn't proof I did it. If I said I murdered someone you still have to proof I did it especially if there is no god damn body. In other words: they have to link my comments to a download I did via vpn years ago. Yeah, good luck losers.
I... don't think that's true.
I'd expect to get convicted if I make a (reasonable) confession of murdering someone who vanished, even if there is no single other bit of evidence.
Not if you made that confession outside of any prosecution process and then withdrew it saying you were just making shit up, I wouldn't think.
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. But to actively say, ‘I downloaded X, from Y. It worked great.’ and/or ‘I’ve downloaded loads from X, I have over a thousand X, and they all work.’ it makes me cringe.
Not evidence of a crime.
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It's like people are forgetting that piracy is actually illegal.
They're just lying about pirating to look cool.
I highly doubt there are any actual pirates on here, it's just users being edgy. A bunch of dorks that don't even own a boat role playing badass pirates.
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What is illegal for Americans is not illegal everywhere.
- I'm not American either.
- The vast majority of countries in the world have copyright.
Now I'm not morally against piracy, pirate away. It's just illegal.
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And why are they demanding it? Just scrape it like the rest of us.
the one positive part of the reddit api changes 🤣
Well, Reddit isn’t in my good books right now, but I hope they fight this fight hard, and I hope they win. Good Luck Reddit
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This was something I suggested for this instance, since there is even a guide for hosting an onion service: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/135234
Maybe /u/db0 will have more time after the spam settles down, but it seems he's got a lot on his plate at the moment between being an admin and doing AI stuff.
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2011?? seems like an awfully long time for them to still care.
Seems this has become standard operating procedure for much of this industry - make shitty movies, wonder why they flop at the box office, then go scorched earth against alleged "pirates" and blame them for your "losses". When the studios make movies that are worth seeing, people will go to see them. See: Top Gun Maverick and Avatar 2, among other recent multi-billion dollar hits.
It is worth noting that many of the more egregious abuses of the legal process as of late seem to be by this one company Millennium Media and their many subsidiaries (Bodyguard Productions, HB Productions, etc.) They are basically just a bigger version of Strike 3, just professional trolls who would rather profit off of legal shakedowns than make good movies.
Funny, those are the same movies I'd point to as what's fundamentally flawed with the film industry; chasing the lowest common denominator and avoiding interesting and artful risk.
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12 years ago, talking about piracy isn’t incriminating so why do the big movie companies need their info? So they can potentially intimidate them for more info they potentially don’t have?
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Thats creepy as hell.
Thank goodness I only openly supported piracy from 2019 to 2023 with 5 different accounts lmao
Dodged a bullet there
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Laughs in GDPR deletion request
Imagine when film companies pay Google for access to pirate’s gmail registrations. I’m glad I switched to Protonmail years ago. Any of these “free” services will sell your information for the right price.
And what are ya gonna do with that information? Tell us talking about it is illegal? Eh?
Extremely common MPAA idiot L, as usual.
Makes me want to screen record DRM protected stuff and redistribute it right now :)
Yeah this is the kind of crap that encourages people to pirate simply to spite them.
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