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[–] Yes_Man@lemmy.world 88 points 10 hours ago (10 children)

Mac Mini's are cool, and I appreciate that Apple has some of the most experienced and talented designers in the world... But they put the power switch on the bottom. You have to lift it up and turn it over to turn it on and off.

A Mac Mini underside, showing the power button placement.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 2 hours ago

The side with the power button is now the top. There is no ports or io on the bottom.

[–] Usernameblankface@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Is it meant to stay on forever once you set it up?

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 1 points 3 hours ago

You’ll be able to fit a finger under it I bet.

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 26 points 8 hours ago

What.

The fuck.

[–] GhostlyPixel@lemmy.world 65 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (3 children)

Remember these are the same engineers who put the Magic Mouse charging port on the bottom, making the mouse unusable while you charge it

[–] million@lemmy.world 12 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

People treat it like a mistake but not be able to use the mouse while it’s plugged in is the entire point of the design. Right or wrong the Apple designers thought a cord drag was a bad experience and designed to prevent it.

They probably looked at their target audience and realized there was a certain percentage of folks that would just leave the mouse on the cord 24/7 and wanted to prevent that.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 4 points 3 hours ago

People treat it like a mistake, but the Emperor has no clothes and people are catching on.

[–] Usernameblankface@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I don't understand why this is so hard to understand. You're supposed to stop using the mouse while it is charging, and use the mouse unplugged. That's the purpose. It's not a stupid decision, it just prevents some user's preferred operation of using the mouse while it is charging

[–] discount_door_garlic@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

"it prevents some users' preferred operation of using the mouse while its charging"

...

"It's not a stupid decision"

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 59 minutes ago

It’s not a stupid decision, but a stubborn one.

I’m 100% OK with that; Apple is heavy on design aesthetics. If a user doesn’t like that, they can just use their own preferred mouse - wired or otherwise.

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I used to buy Macs when I was a teenager and young adult, but finally grew tired of the "my way or the highway" approach to design.

Windows is guilty of this too, but it's more subtle, but getting worse all the time with w11.

Linux has more of a "you break it, you buy it" approach to design lol

[–] bamboo@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

I’m the reverse. As I get older, all the things I used to consider deal breakers just don’t matter as much. I don’t really care about how upgradable or repairable the device is, I’m just gonna pay Apple for the upgrade and pay them again to fix it. Whenever I have to solve an issue on my gaming PC I get an inch closer to just throwing it out and buying whatever overpriced gaming laptop comes working out of the box.

[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Yeah and I hear they might bring that back lol. Why haven't there been any wireless mice that use wireless charging? They could include a super thin coil that you could place under any mouse pad. It doesn't even need to charge fast so heat shouldn't be an issue. Just trickle charge when it's not being used.

Edit: guess I should have searched first. Of course it was Logitech

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 16 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Honestly, the mouse charger screams marketing or management. Apple's brand is partially form over function.

[–] ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

It was very likely a designers decision. It forces the use the use case they wanted; wireless mice should be used wirelessly. I would bet they fought marketing and management to get this on the final product.

Marketing would want the mouse they can advertise as being useable with and wireless. Female ports are easier to mount and manufacture with they have depth to set the socket. So a plug on the front is much cheaper and easier to manufacture.

The fact the charging cable doesn’t get used in motion means it will last longer and you wouldn’t have people useing fraying cables on the front of their mouse.

[–] _edge@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

What marketing genius uses a mouse upside down.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca -1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It’s better for display

Users aren’t trying before they buy so the display is the most important aspect

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Users aren’t trying before they buy so the display is the most important aspect

Trying before you buy is literally the entire point of the apple store

[–] falkerie71@sh.itjust.works 14 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

In case it wasn't a joke, I imagine it would be high enough for your finger to just poke under it to push the button, like you would a monitor with buttons on the bottom of the screen.

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 7 points 8 hours ago

Doesn't look like it is.

[–] xxd@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

The new design seems more lifted, I think it should be fine to fit your finger below there without having to lift it up yourself. At least for most people.

[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

But once its on why would you ever turn it off? /s

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

We used to have racks of these things for automated testing …. And eventually they stop responding, so someone needs to power cycle them. In the computer room. In a rack

[–] darreninthenet@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 4 hours ago

I bought my iMac in March 2020... since then it's been powered down maybe half a dozen times (a couple of those were power cuts) and rebooted (outside of macOS updates) maybe ten times.

It just sits there reliably doing its thing and sucks little juice in power saving so 🤷🏻‍♂️

[–] ilega_dh@feddit.nl 4 points 5 hours ago

This but non-sarcastically. I have a Mac mini and I don’t think I’ve ever touched the power button (except after plugging in of course, but then you’re already fiddling)

[–] antlion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 hours ago

Assuming the desktop takes the same power saving techniques from their laptops, there is no real reason to turn it off.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee -3 points 7 hours ago

The next 900$ monitor stand will attach the monitor at the bottom with the screen facing the desk.

You need to buy the ar/vr set to see what the screen is displaying.

[–] HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

At the very least, the keyboard functions for power.

There is plenty of room on the front for a power button. Should have removed the headphone jack.

Lol, lmao.

[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Why didn't they put the headphone port on the back..

[–] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (3 children)
[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

It doesn't come with one last I checked.

[–] HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

That's horrible. I want you on my design team.

[–] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Perhaps, but for the price of those flat non-rgb or mechanical things they should either shine my shoes or provide some kind of utility, such as a headphone jack.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Or sold as a separate device that costs only a bit less that this whole pc.