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[–] jecxjo@midwest.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Honestly if I got ads for things that are actually relevant I'd have less of an issue. Right now 7 out of 10 ads are for a local event where Christians come to grift other Christians. Wtf am I getting that ad constantly?

[–] nzodd@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

He gets [our money]

[–] nicerdicer@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Someone in the Fediverse (I don't know where and who) posted that you have to add the following filters into U-Block Origin. When done you shouldn't see any anti-adblock-warnings :

youtube.com##+js(set,yt.config_.openPopupConfig.supportedPopups.adBlockMessageViewModel,false)

youtube.com##+js(set,Object.prototype.adBlocksFound,O)

youtube.com##+js(set,ytplayer.config.aras.raw_player_response.adPlacements,[])

youtube.com##+js(set,Object.prototype.hasAllowedlnstreamAd,true)

I might add that I haven't experienced any anti-adblock-warnings yet, but I added these filters in advance. I might be worth a shot!

[–] TooLikeTheNope@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Also or just use a front-end like as Piped (https://github.com/TeamPiped/Piped) or Invidious (https://github.com/iv-org/invidious)

A handy externsion of FIrefox wil automatically redirects you, see https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/libredirect/

[–] nicerdicer@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

Thank you! I was aware of Invideous and I tried that in the past. However, Invideous-redirected videos always seemed to be slow, then disconnected or I experienced buffering. I'll give the firefox extension for libdirect a try. I tested it and it seems to work flawlessly.

[–] worfamerryman@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

If they want me to stop blocking ads, they will need to get rid of ads like this. I get ads like this all the time and it’s completely inappropriate.

IMG-7171.png

[–] Cal@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

Copy this into uBlock Origin. Tells youtube ads are allowed and have been displayed, but no ads will show. Removes all references to shorts. Resizes video thumbnails so there's 6 wide.

`youtube.com##+js(set,yt.config_.openPopupConfig.supportedPopups.adBlockMessageViewModel,false) youtube.com##+js(set,Object.prototype.adBlocksFound,O) youtube.com##+js(set,ytplayer.config.aras.raw_player_response.adPlacements,[]) youtube.com##+js(set,Object.prototype.hasAllowedlnstreamAd,true)

! YT Homepage - Hide the Shorts section youtube.com##[is-shorts] ! YT Menu - Hide the Shorts button www.youtube.com###guide [title="Shorts"], .ytd-mini-guide-entry-renderer[title="Shorts"] ! YT Search - Hide Shorts www.youtube.com##ytd-search ytd-video-renderer [overlay-style="SHORTS"]:upward(ytd-video-renderer) ! YT Search and Channels - Hide the Shorts sections www.youtube.com##ytd-reel-shelf-renderer ! YT Channels - Hide the Shorts tab www.youtube.com##ytd-browse[page-subtype="channels"] [role="tab"]:nth-of-type(3):has-text(Shorts) ! YT Subscriptions - Hide Shorts - Grid View www.youtube.com##ytd-browse[page-subtype="subscriptions"] ytd-grid-video-renderer [overlay-style="SHORTS"]:upward(ytd-grid-video-renderer) ! YT Subscriptions - Hide Shorts - List View www.youtube.com##ytd-browse[page-subtype="subscriptions"] ytd-video-renderer [overlay-style="SHORTS"]:upward(ytd-item-section-renderer) ! YT Subscriptions - New Layout - Hide Shorts www.youtube.com##ytd-browse[page-subtype="subscriptions"] ytd-rich-item-renderer [overlay-style="SHORTS"]:upward(ytd-rich-item-renderer) ! YT Sidebar - Hide Shorts www.youtube.com###related ytd-compact-video-renderer [overlay-style="SHORTS"]:upward(ytd-compact-video-renderer)

! YT Mobile - Hide the Shorts Menu button m.youtube.com##.pivot-shorts:upward(ytm-pivot-bar-item-renderer) ! YT Mobile - Hide Shorts sections m.youtube.com##ytm-reel-shelf-renderer ! YT Mobile - Hide Shorts in search results m.youtube.com##ytm-search ytm-video-with-context-renderer [data-style="SHORTS"]

!(Font Size fix) youtube.com###video-title.ytd-rich-grid-media, #video-title.ytd-rich-grid-slim-media:style(font-size: 1.4rem !important; line-height: 2rem !important;) youtube.com###metadata-line.ytd-video-meta-block:style(font-size: 0.9rem !important; line-height: 1.8rem !important;)

! YouTube Fix & Customization v1.7! (1-2/12) YouTube 4 Videos Per Row Fix (Home and Channel Pages) youtube.com##ytd-rich-grid-renderer:style(width: 80% !important; padding-left: 50px !important; padding-right: 1px !important;) youtube.com##ytd-rich-grid-row, #contents.ytd-rich-grid-row:style(display:contents !important;) youtube.com##ytd-rich-grid-renderer:style(--ytd-rich-grid-items-per-row: 6 !important;)`

[–] Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

So if you are on android: https://apt.izzysoft.de/fdroid/index/apk/org.polymorphicshade.newpipe (Newpipe with sponsorblock baked in)

If you are on PC: https://freetubeapp.io/ (Piped with sponsorblock baked in)

You're welcome.

[–] ram@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

I'll stop blocked ads when I stop using their service. Not a minute sooner.

[–] themizarkshow@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What's with every big tech company trying to destroy their userbase this year?

[–] bren42069@iusearchlinux.fyi 1 points 2 years ago

they think they have us sufficiently cornered on centralized sites, they may be right.

[–] snaggen@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

That is pretty much the same policy I have for forcing adds on me.

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Big web corps are a wild ride lately

[–] Paradox@lemdro.id 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Enshitification is in full force

[–] SubArcticTundra@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeah what is it with 2023 and enshittification? This has been such a bad year in general

[–] ours@lemmy.film 1 points 2 years ago

I'm guessing venture capitalists trying to reel in some profits after racing to outspend each other. I expect many services to implode.

[–] Paradox@lemdro.id 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A lot of tech companies grew unreasonably fast during the COVID lockdowns, and assumed their new traffic patterns were permanent. Couple that with a general global recession, and you've got companies that overextended themselves, desperate to make some money back before people realize the emperor has no clothes

[–] SubArcticTundra@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

That would make sense

[–] Buttons@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And what are the consequences of "strikes"? Will you delete my Google account, including my email, and also screw up my Android phone and my kids Chromebook?

It's scary to realize that Google has me by the balls here. They can screw me in so many ways, and screw my family members as well. I'd rather have my bank credentials stolen than my email credentials, at least I can get real customer service from the bank, I can even go to a physical location and speak face-to-face with someone who can help me. Google wont give me customer support, and my email account is the closest thing to an identity I have for most businesses I interact with.

It takes a lot of work to avoid Google. Yes, there are alternatives, but in D&D terms, avoiding Google is like a -2 to all stats for your entire life, and not something we can expect the general population to do.

All this shows the need for anti-trust enforcement. The same company is controlling too much. Bust 'em up!

[–] wim@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Moral of the story: create separate account for YouTube that has no high value services or data on it.

[–] chahk@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

I've seen enough horror stories to know that's not going to help. They can, and do, associate multiple accounts to same users. Be it by cookies, IP addresses, or dark magic, the end result is the same - they can upend your entire digital life if they want to. r/degoogle better hurry up and migrate to Lemmy.

[–] rho50@lemmy.nz 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’d argue the bigger moral is that you should always own your online identity. You should buy your own domain (@yourname.xyz or something like that) and make your email on that. So if Google bans you, you just switch email providers and keep your address.

[–] wim@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago

I've been using @fixnum.org and since a few years the alias @wim.land to do exactly this, but that's just email.

My app purchases, photo storage, and YouTube account are all entangled in this. I could decouple from Google, but it would be very painful.

[–] donio@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

So you see YouTube, the thing is, I'm not gonna watch those stupid ads. I don't care how short or long, it's just not happening. No, not even the tip. I can use the site without watching the ads and maybe send links to my friends and they might give you some ad impressions. Or I can go do something else, get mad at Google and never spend another dollar at the play store and stuff. What do you think?

[–] TrainsAreCool@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Personally, I'd rather pay for Nebula than YouTube premium. Most of the creators I actively follow are on there anyways, and the few that aren't (usually the ones with very long videos) I should probably just watch with ads anyways to support them.

[–] ErgodicTangle@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

I had a similar thought. How fair is nebula to their creators? I heard it was somehow creator owned, but other than that I have no idea how it works.

[–] daveyeah@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

Mmmm, gotta love that enshittification strategy every big tech company is working on right now.

[–] liminis@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Another executive-driven decision by people who clearly don't use their own product (kinda impressive really when it's YT).

I can't help wonder if they saw an uptick in adblocking as a result of their absurd increases in ad-time recently and somehow thought this was a reasonable solution.

[–] CheshireSnake@iusearchlinux.fyi 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

8-10 unskippable ads before a video? Holy shit. That's ludicrous.

[–] liminis@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It really is hard to fathom how that got through any internal discussion.

[–] StewieTheThird@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

Its not that hard to fathom when you have worked with these types of people.

All it was was a numbers meeting, no User Experience folks in the room. They said how much revenue they would increase quarter over quarter, and how much engagement it would drive. Everyone claps, the meeting ends they move forward with the next terrible design decision. Companies no longer take focus group testing seriously for anything.

[–] Atemu@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

If they gave me an API key I'd be allowed use with SmartTubeNext and NewPipe, I'd gladly pay for premium.

I don't want to use your apps, Google.

[–] NightOwl@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So there are YouTube front ends for browser experience, but has anyone tried freetube from this guide?

https://www.privacyguides.org/en/frontends/

I've really liked the newpipe x Sponsorblock experience on my Android phone with having a subscription list, saves, playlists all locally with no YouTube account and ability to export and import the data of Playlists etc.

Freetube sounds like newpipe for desktop and has sponsorblock as an option too. Anyone use it or used it and have an thoughts on it?

[–] count_duckula@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago

I exclusively use Freetube for my Youtube needs. It is great when it works. Sometimes you have to find the right Invidious instance for it to work properly. A few times videos play at 720p. I have also noticed search failing for specific terms sometimes - for example "machine learning". I don't know if it is a bug or blacklisted words/phrases.

These are a few reality checks highlighting it isn't a perfect experience all the time, but I will be damned if go back to a vanilla Youtube interface after having gotten used to Invidious and then Peertube.

The upsides are less fluff that is recommended, you control your own feed with the videos from the channels you subscribe to, no ads, sponsorblock, and I guess more privacy.

[–] PR_freak@vlemmy.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think this is because YouTube pushed so much its shorts (tiktok knockoff) but they're not as profitable. My guesstimate is that at least 70% of traffic is in shorts now so longer content is rarely played along with longer ads

[–] mobyduck648@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

YouTube Shorts are an absolute plague as is the TikTokification of social media generally. I don’t want that attention capitalist version of opium anywhere near me.

[–] Paradox@lemdro.id 1 points 2 years ago

Whats even more frustrating is now you have to choose between:

  • 48 minute long video essay about cheese
  • 10 second video about cheese

I want a 5-10 minute video about cheese, something light I can watch while doing some other stuff, and then move on with my day. I don't want to watch a feature length movie.

[–] ConsciousCode@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Recently found this gem: https://adnauseam.io/

It's an ad blocker that only hides ads and clicks them for you in the background, which means you waste advertiser's money, support creators, can't get flagged for ad blocking as easily, and they can't build a proper profile against your ad activity since it's all noise. Haven't installed it yet, but this might be the push I needed.

[–] Contend6248@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

This might be an acceptable sollution, but what happens on the other side of the ad? If something maliciously is being spreaded, the click might have to happen in an isolated form from the rest of the system or the browser.

[–] rimlogger@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

People should develop a federated video hosting service. It will be expensive but I know the community can do it.

[–] yeepyorp@mtgzone.com 1 points 2 years ago
[–] ConsciousCode@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

LBRY is worth looking into, it's not quite federated but it is decentralized and based on blockchains.

[–] sfera@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You almost had me until

and based on blockchains.

😉

[–] SirElliott@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

Doesn’t Peertube already do this?