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I noticed that I and Alexa say “six ‘oh’ five a m”, but is that the correct way of saying the time? Specifically the “oh” part?

Kind of like when speaking out a phone number, how we might say “my number is one two three, six ‘oh’ six…” but really, that’s not an “oh” like the letter O even though it looks like an O, but everyone knows the person is saying “six zero six”, which is the proper way of saying that.

Edit: thanks for all the answers everyone! This was just pure curiosity for me but I really enjoyed reading everyone’s responses and learning some new things!

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[-] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 58 points 7 months ago

The proper way is the way the person you are talking to will understand.

Five minutes past 6 in the morning. (what I would say)

Six oh five AM.

etc.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 25 points 7 months ago

Fifty-five 'til five 'til midday

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 6 points 7 months ago

It's too early for all that 5 past 6 shit. I just woke up and you want me to do math?

[-] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 40 points 7 months ago

I'd typically say something like: "One billion, seven hundred and one million, sixty five thousand, one hundred seconds since the epoch."

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[-] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 28 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

"Five past 6"

But 6 oh 5 is also fine

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[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 24 points 7 months ago

I found this:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KozLFLwhLac

And this other answer that goes into more detail on the Middle Ages part:

"Whereas the Latin alphabet has been used for English from the earliest times, the numerals are relatively late. In early Middle English there were words for one, two, three (etc) but there was no word for "zero", as the symbol hadn't yet arrived in England (from India, via Arabia and Italy), and even when the symbols did arrive, they were, at first, a rather specialist tool for calculation that neither the illiterate peasants, nor the literate clergy, would have had much use for. They were a device that allowed financiers to make calculations without the use of an abacus.

As literacy and numeracy became more widespread in the Early modern period there is an issue: What do we call "0"? There's no problem with "1" because we can just name the numeral after the number "one". But there is no number for "0"!

Some people use the technical term "zero" from Italian, ultimately from Sanskrit. But this is a foreign and strange word. Some people use the English word "naught", meaning "nothing". But there is another option. The symbol looks exactly like the letter O. So not having a better name, many people just used the name of the symbol that it looks like. This use is attested from 1600, but probably goes back long before that."

I have not checked the veracity of either source or answer, but it's definitely true that English speakers have been saying O for 0 for a very long time, in any context that isn't too confusing.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Then you have people who use aught for naught, as in 30 aught 6 for the 30-06 Springfield round or anything with a zero that my grandfather refers to.

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[-] ji88aja88a@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago

Five past six

[-] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 7 months ago
[-] r00ty@kbin.life 6 points 7 months ago

Yes, glad you made the minutes optional because I think most people colloquially skip minutes.

[-] Pendulla@lemdro.id 15 points 7 months ago

Five past six is what they taught me in English lessons back in the day :) that is the "proper" Way to say it in British English.

01-29 minutes are past the hour, 30 is half past the hour, 31-59 are to the hour (ex. 20 minutes to 7).

You could also be a smart ass and say it in US military style - oh six hundred and five.

[-] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago

I believe you only say the hundred if the time ends in 00

[-] towerful@programming.dev 8 points 7 months ago

Yeh, it would probably be "oh six oh five" for us military time.
They pronounce the leading 0.

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[-] sadcoconut@lemm.ee 11 points 7 months ago

I'll give you a short answer as you've got a lot of detailed ones already: to a native British English speaker "six oh five a m" sounds completely normal. There are other ways to say it that sound equally normal.

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[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

Six-oh-five is not wrong.

Unless you’re in basic. Then I’m pretty sure it was zero-six-hundred-oh-five. (Unless I’m wrong. If it’s any consolation…. They were always going to yell at you.)

[-] KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

i would say "Sechs uhr fünf" which translates to "six o'clock five". but if i was to speak english i would definetely say "six o' five" the "o'" might even stand for "o'clock"

[-] CalamityBalls@kbin.social 3 points 7 months ago

In some situations, we use "o" for the number 0. Been hunting around for a reason but I think it's just an abbreviation of zero.

[-] Whelks_chance@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Which is turn stands for "of the clock"

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[-] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

yeah that's just gonna be a 6 am from me dawg, I'm not splitting hairs over 5 minutes

[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

6:30 in ADHD time

[-] RandomWalker@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

I would likely say six oh five as would my wife and friends. We’re all American from different parts of the country, so I suspect this is a difference in British v American English.

[-] Squizzy@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Five past/after 6

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[-] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Not that you asked, but the thing that I have most issues with is the AM in that time. I think you should drop that and just count to 23 with the hours instead of only to 12. It always confuses me if 12am is noon or midnight. And it's superfluous anyways. We have enough numbers, no need to be stingy.

[-] CalamityBalls@kbin.social 7 points 7 months ago

12:01AM is definitely 00:01, so 12AM is midnight.

Agree though, 24hr clock is just better.

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[-] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 6 points 7 months ago

That's there because of analog clocks, which somebody in history decided would look too cluttered if they counted all 24 hrs, and at any rate we're asleep for roughly a third of them anyway, so it's superfluous. The 12-hr clock is an elegant design solution.

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[-] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

IMO it's confusing because it makes no sense, since I would think the 12 should always be the same AM / PM as the last 11 numbers. But it's not. E.g. 1 hour after 11 PM is 12 AM.

[-] CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

If AM (ante meridiem) means “before midday” and PM (post meridiem) means “after midday”, then I think it makes sense. That doesn’t mean it isn’t confusing, but it makes sense.

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[-] ABCDE@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

In phone numbers we can often mix oh and zero, but you'd very rarely (if ever) use zero in time. Perhaps in the military (or similar organisations): zero/oh six hundred hours. I'd naturally say oh.

When telling the time, I get my students to say: six oh five, three oh eight, five oh two, etc. The alternatives would be 'past' and approximations: five past six, and just after six.

[-] whaleross@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago
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[-] mysoulishome@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Fifty-five minutes before Seven P.M.

[-] fhek@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Everyone in here saying “5 past 6”.

I’ve been saying “5 after 6” or “6 oh 5” my whole life. I’m from Canada & in my early 30s.

  • 5 after X
  • 10 after X
  • 5/10 to X
  • Quarter after X
  • Quarter to X

Etc.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

In French they say 6 hours 5 minutes, all time is after and no time is to.

So 9:55 would be 9 hours 55 minutes, whereas in English we would say 5 minutes to 10, the French system just seems more consistent.

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[-] TheDoctorDonna@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Same. And I've lived in several places across Canada and it seems to be pretty universal here.

[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

The hour of six, and five minutes past.

[-] umulu@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

You woke up and choose violence? XD

[-] Chickenstalker@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

I call it Whiskey time.

[-] slazer2au@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago
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[-] SolOrion@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago

Very similarly, I'd probably say '5 past 6'.

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 3 points 7 months ago

Six and five in the morning - Seis e cinco da manhã

[-] DannyMac@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

I say "six oh five," but with numbers, I say "zero" or "oh."

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