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I noticed that I and Alexa say “six ‘oh’ five a m”, but is that the correct way of saying the time? Specifically the “oh” part?

Kind of like when speaking out a phone number, how we might say “my number is one two three, six ‘oh’ six…” but really, that’s not an “oh” like the letter O even though it looks like an O, but everyone knows the person is saying “six zero six”, which is the proper way of saying that.

Edit: thanks for all the answers everyone! This was just pure curiosity for me but I really enjoyed reading everyone’s responses and learning some new things!

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[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 24 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I found this:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KozLFLwhLac

And this other answer that goes into more detail on the Middle Ages part:

"Whereas the Latin alphabet has been used for English from the earliest times, the numerals are relatively late. In early Middle English there were words for one, two, three (etc) but there was no word for "zero", as the symbol hadn't yet arrived in England (from India, via Arabia and Italy), and even when the symbols did arrive, they were, at first, a rather specialist tool for calculation that neither the illiterate peasants, nor the literate clergy, would have had much use for. They were a device that allowed financiers to make calculations without the use of an abacus.

As literacy and numeracy became more widespread in the Early modern period there is an issue: What do we call "0"? There's no problem with "1" because we can just name the numeral after the number "one". But there is no number for "0"!

Some people use the technical term "zero" from Italian, ultimately from Sanskrit. But this is a foreign and strange word. Some people use the English word "naught", meaning "nothing". But there is another option. The symbol looks exactly like the letter O. So not having a better name, many people just used the name of the symbol that it looks like. This use is attested from 1600, but probably goes back long before that."

I have not checked the veracity of either source or answer, but it's definitely true that English speakers have been saying O for 0 for a very long time, in any context that isn't too confusing.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Then you have people who use aught for naught, as in 30 aught 6 for the 30-06 Springfield round or anything with a zero that my grandfather refers to.

[–] NoneYa@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

Thank you for the detailed history!