this post was submitted on 17 Nov 2023
39 points (100.0% liked)

Technology

37699 readers
369 users here now

A nice place to discuss rumors, happenings, innovations, and challenges in the technology sphere. We also welcome discussions on the intersections of technology and society. If it’s technological news or discussion of technology, it probably belongs here.

Remember the overriding ethos on Beehaw: Be(e) Nice. Each user you encounter here is a person, and should be treated with kindness (even if they’re wrong, or use a Linux distro you don’t like). Personal attacks will not be tolerated.

Subcommunities on Beehaw:


This community's icon was made by Aaron Schneider, under the CC-BY-NC-SA 4.0 license.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
top 26 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Ebennz@lemmy.ml 137 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yes, they uninstall and then install an adblocker that works. Click bait.

[–] AndrasKrigare@beehaw.org 38 points 11 months ago

Yeah, who's gonna say "Oh, I'm not blocking ads on YouTube, better take the time to make sure I see ads everywhere else as well."

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah for a while I used Adblock plus and ublock. With this adblock plus was just tripping youtube so it was an immediate uninstall. Stupid article is stupid

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Why would you use two adblockers at the same time? That's just bound to cause problems. And that doesn't even go into the whole adblock plus drama.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 10 points 11 months ago

I mean, I just did? Used both for 5 years like that and only had a problem now

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

It's not crazy. There are multiple blacklists that largely but not completely overlap. Sometimes program A works best on site B and program Y works on site Z. Or at least historically this has been the case.

Obviously a new game is afoot.

[–] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago

You can just add lists to uBlock to your hearts content, though?

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 84 points 11 months ago

Misleading. Ad blocker installations also rose. This isn't people leaving adblocking, this is people changing to better ones.

[–] NotBadAndYou@ttrpg.network 38 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

uBlock Origin has kept their filters up-to-date for me. Still no ads, and no blocks from YouTube, since day 1. I did disable my other privacy extensions like Privacy Badger and Ghostery on YouTube to stay on their "good" side however.

[–] walden@sub.wetshaving.social 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I recently had to disable ad blocking within Enhancer for YouTube, but uBlock Origin took over and it works great so far.

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Does that fix it? I disabled the whole addon because it interfered with the anti adblock measures. Unfortunately many features of it are pretty broken at this point and the author even removed it from the Firefox addon page.

[–] walden@sub.wetshaving.social 2 points 11 months ago

Oh really? Yeah it worked for me.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago

For me no blocks but ads just played?

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 11 months ago

Yeah, probably lots of people uninstalling ghostery and adguard so they can install ublock origin.

[–] lvxferre@lemmy.ml 21 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The ad blockers in question were AdGuard and Ghostery, acc. to the article.
uBlock Origin is still working fine for me. And NewPipe in the cell phone.

[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ghostery isn't even an ad blocker, it's just to prevent tracking.

[–] lvxferre@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ghostery does work as an ad blocker too, and advertises (eh) itself as such.

Plus, for corporate nowadays, tracking and advertisement are two steps of the same process.

[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 11 months ago

Oh OK my bad, that was news to me. I stopped using it a couple of years ago when Firefox got the functionality built in, and it wasn't advertised as an ad blocker back then.

[–] EmperorMudBug@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Where do you get NewPipe and is it good

[–] Itsamelemmy@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 months ago

It's on F-Droid. I personally haven't used it in a long time because you couldn't sign in to your account. Not sure if that's changed. I'm currently using revanced which is great.

[–] lvxferre@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago

As the other poster said, it's on F-Droid. It's mostly a Youtube frontend, although it accesses SoundCloud and PeerTube too. And more importantly, it doesn't download advertisements from YT, so you don't even need an ad blocker when using it.

[–] NightOwl@lemmy.one 15 points 11 months ago

I uninstalled chrome. Stopped logging into YouTube. And moved to freetube on desktop. Newpipe on Android.

[–] DoctorButts@kbin.melroy.org 10 points 11 months ago

It will be another dark day on the internet if Youtube finally blocks out the last adblockers.

As a small channel owner, there's no other viable place to share my hobby content. Up until six months ago, I could count on Reddit for 150-200 views, now it is 15-20. If Youtube finally goes full enshitted, there go the rest of my viewers and I may as well just give up making stuff.

[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 6 points 11 months ago

This result honestly sounds like their best-case outcome. I don't like much of what Google does, but I'm certain a lot of discussion went into what would be viewed as a "win" on this call, and my guess is "some number of people stop using ad-blocking software" actually beats out "some people are converted to subscribers" (an effect not measured here and somewhat necessary to get any context for one data point) by virtue of Google being an advertising company.

Regardless, they're targeting only low-hanging fruit: people who use ad blockers to block ads. Sounds tautological, but this excludes anyone concerned about privacy. Nobody using an ad blocker in concert with other add-ons is going to be converted here. And I sort of wonder whether media coverage from when the crackdown started inflated ad-block installs among people who'd never used one, thus making this win less substantial on a longer timeline.

[–] terminhell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Do other non ublock adblockers not have the ability to whitelist specific domains? Or are people just unaware of it? (Probably the latter id assume)

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

Yes to both questions.