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[-] uphillbothways@kbin.social 96 points 11 months ago

Copper sulphate is a listed "organic" fungicide despite not having any carbon atoms.

[-] Siethron@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago

I've seen "Organic" salt.

that doesn't have Carbon, Hydrogen or Oxygen

[-] pakrat@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

There is no such thing as organic salt........

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[-] Ddhuud@lemmy.world 70 points 11 months ago

Even the most transgenic plant, grown in the techiest greenhouse ever cared for with the nastiest fertilizers and pesticides is organic in the most widespread and commonly used meaning of the word.

The air quotes are well deserved.

[-] Random_user@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Wait, what's the most widespread and commonly used meaning of the word?

Organic is a term certified by the USDA.

To use "organic" on packaging, a product must contain at least 95% organically produced ingredients.

[-] LukeMedia@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago

Love a definition that uses its own word

[-] xintrik@lemm.ee 11 points 11 months ago

It is a bit annoying, though "organically produced" is defined exhaustively on the website.

[-] Hobo@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

We can debate what it means effectively, but the term organic in the US means something. It's a regulated term and you can't just slap different stickers on something and call it organic. So much just straight up misinformation in this thread from people too jaded, or too lazy, to look it up.

https://www.usda.gov/topics/organic

https://www.ams.usda.gov/rules-regulations/organic

Now I'm not saying that the regulated term "organic" doesn't have some other weird side effects, or that people haven't attempted to hoodwink the process, but the term itself carries the weight of regulation in the US. So it's not some silly, "Hurrr derrr Organic means Organic" thing like people are making it out to be.

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[-] HeckGazer@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

Means "contains carbon" in any context other than food

[-] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

When not talking about US food it just means living matter. Basically anything you eat is organic by the traditional definition. The USDA organic definition is honestly a joke though. Most pesticide other than the new age shit is made out of plant directives. Doesn't make it safe to consume. The range of shit they can use and do, while still calling things organic is pretty laughable. You just have to avoid a few products that are widely used today. Nitrogen fertilizer and shit like roundup.

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[-] Danatronic@lemmy.world 70 points 11 months ago

I mean, I wouldn't want to eat inorganic food. What would that even be, pure salt?

[-] Aux@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago

Many different salts, not just NaCl. As well as many metals and some acids. But they all are micronutrients, you won't get any calories out of them.

[-] Fosheze@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

So it's a diet then.

[-] HeckGazer@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

won't get any calories out of them

Me, an intellectual: eats a chunk of uranium

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[-] burntbutterbiscuits@sh.itjust.works 12 points 11 months ago
[-] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago
[-] Ertebolle@kbin.social 8 points 11 months ago

I thought that was made from ground-up plundered religious artifacts or something

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[-] TechLauren@lemmy.world 37 points 11 months ago

My definition of organic =contains carbon so = all food uless you are eating sand for some reason. Just another meaningless tag on US foods imo.

[-] solidgrue@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago

My own definition is: 30% upcharge for the same damned thing in a differently labeled package

You're paying for the label

( looking at you too, "non-GMO" 👀 )

[-] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 20 points 11 months ago

No, no, my food's not genetically modified. It's just been developed via artificial selection for thousands of years.

[-] LukeMedia@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

To be fair, genetic modification and selective breeding are not the same thing. It is funny how one is totally normal and the other is considered negative when they're quite similar

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[-] nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info 7 points 11 months ago

( looking at you too, “non-GMO” 👀 )

I'll let someone correct me if I'm wrong but I believe carrots were never orange, as in every orange or yellow carrot you buy is GMO

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Nearly every food you could theoretically consume is a GMO. The label is intentionally misleading.

[-] solstice@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Virtually everything we eat now is GMO after countless generations of selective breeding and all that. Ever read about the wild versions of common foods? Bananas, watermelons, corn, all that stuff in their completely natural wild form is unrecognizable from the monstrosities on sale in every grocery store.

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[-] meeeeetch@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

X USDA Organic

✓ IUPAC Organic

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[-] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 30 points 11 months ago

Well it’s not made of organs…

[-] almar_quigley@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago
[-] Ertebolle@kbin.social 14 points 11 months ago

I for one am happy to know that the food I purchase is strictly carbon-based and doesn't contain fillers made up from ground-up Horta carcasses or whatever.

[-] Hank@kbin.social 8 points 11 months ago

I'm sorry to tell you this but plants contain anorganic elements. It's less than 1% tho.

[-] Streetdog@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

That's unacceptable.

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[-] cheeseblintzes@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

Some of you need to find a local farmer and it shows.

[-] GlitchyDigiBun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 11 months ago

I'm in nebraska. I can find all the corn you ever could want... Not much else. Got a bitchin' farmers market though.

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[-] Yabadabadoo@lemmynsfw.com 12 points 11 months ago

More likely that everyone was ignoring him, but that don’t sound as cool on twitter

[-] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 16 points 11 months ago

This dude - "Are these 'organic'?"

Stall worker - "Yes. 3 dollars."

This dude - "Really?"

Stall worker - "Sir, do you want the pears or not?"

[-] Ertebolle@kbin.social 14 points 11 months ago

"then all the farmers clapped and this cute farmer girl asked me to come to the next barn dance with her"

[-] Dr_Fetus_Jackson@kbin.social 10 points 11 months ago

City folks just don't get it.

[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago

I thought being organic meant no pesticides

[-] Piemanding@sh.itjust.works 23 points 11 months ago

It means "organic" pesticides, which are older and more dangerous to the environment.

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