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[–] L0rdMathias@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

Waaahhhh I made a bad financial decision and no one wants to bail me out at a 20% loss.

Lol. Lmao even.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago

From the article:

The Cybertruck owner listed his truck for sale for $89,000. He thinks this is a fair price [...] if you added every optional extra that Tesla currently offers for the Cybertruck, given the $7,500 tax credit and the $2000 referral discount, (a brand new 2025) Cybertruck will still only cost around $86,000.

Nobody with a brain would pay more for a used vehicle. It's not a collectible. "Founder's edition" nowadays means "beta version" and it's not something that's worth more.

[–] brlemworld@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

I can't give this thing away

Sus

[–] mosscap@slrpnk.net 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I can think of one way to get rid of it. Saw it on the news last week. He's probably not going to like it.

[–] mdurell@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Musk said it will be back on the road in no time. I don't think it's going to be quite that easy.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago

Just take a bulldozer and push it on the street. Still drives as reliable as before.

[–] mosscap@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 day ago

At least the driver was kind enough to drive it to Musk's assistant's place of business.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 59 points 1 day ago

...he has driven and sold over 40 exotic cars, and the Cybertruck is the one vehicle he is having the most trouble finding buyers for.

Not saying the Cybertruck is a good thing, personally IDGAF about it, but calling this guy merely "a cybertruck owner" is bullshit. He's a guy who makes money buying and selling expensive vehicles, and he's whining about a deal that hasn't worked out for him. Poor baby.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 67 points 2 days ago (6 children)

“I've owned it for 8 months. It is depreciating like a rock. I have already lost over $20k in 8 months. I want to cut my losses and move on, but I can't give this thing away unless I lower the price to probably $79k. Sucks.”

This right here sums up the unrealistic expectations of the average Tesla owner. Cars immediately depreciate the moment you drive them off the lot, no car is immune to this. The average new car loses 10% in the first month after buying it. It loses over 20% in the first year. For those who are playing along this track's with exactly how much this doofus has "lost" on his truck.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago

Also funny that he talks about the price depreciation, while complaining about not being able to sell it. How do you want to sell a buyer on "this will depreciate quickly in price, but please pay a price notably above current market prices"

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The average new car loses 10% in the first month after buying it. It loses over 20% in the first year.

The theory behind this is that you'd only be selling a slightly used car if it was a lemon. The exception to the rule is resellers who already have a buyer lined up when they take possession of the vehicle.

But because Musk-o-philes are all Bitcoin brained and cannot conceive of prices ever going down, they're routinely shocked to discover that cars are for driving and not for speculating.

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[–] drzoidberg@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Dumb people do dumb things. News at 11.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Though I'd say this one takes it to a whole new level because of a few extra factors:

  1. Pre-orders were priced for exclusivity. Iirc, Tesla was having a lot of production/inventory issues when the pre-orders were collected. I'm not sure how much the deposits were, but they'd have added some sunk cost to the situation, making it harder to walk away when it might have been clear that they would be a shitshow. No one has a deposit on anyone's used cyber truck to add incentive to pay the rest.
  2. Elon's reputation hadn't sunk so low when pre-orders were made. Iirc, it was after the whole submarine/pedophile thing, but it seems that many didn't see the writing on the wall from that event.
  3. They turned out to be pretty bad. Other Teslas have and had issues but the cyber truck has had some particularly embarrassing ones for a truck. Like not handling rain or sand well.
  4. It looks so unique that it doesn't really fly under the radar. The two other very hated vehicles I can think of off-hand, the PT Cruiser and the Aztec, were ugly but still looked similar enough to other vehicles that many people didn't know what they were or that they were so unpopular. People could buy one before they realized, and it was easier to not care what others thought. The cyber truck looks like a 90s video game truck in a time when memes reach many more people, to the point where openly laughing at cyber trucks you see in RL might be a meme.
  5. Cars and trucks are expensive in general, but this one is on another level. While I might be behind on inflation, the price is comparable to a mid/low-end Porsche (~80k for a boxter, ~120k for a 911 is my benchmark, though it's old but it's also CAD, so maybe it works today for USD). A) why would someone want that more than a Porsche? B) most people can't afford a Porsche.

Not to mention the people Elon is pandering to these days either have trouble affording his vehicles without a dealer trying to convince a bank to take the loan, or can easily afford it but have money in part because they don't spend it on stupid shit like a cyber truck.

All of that on top of the usual depreciation.

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[–] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There is a Tesla dealership near my house that has a lot full of them. A ridiculous number. It seems that Tesla is struggling to get rid of them. Hard to believe that there is not a huge market for electric dumpsters sold by a conspicuous asshole.

[–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I thought Tesla’s business model was to not have dealerships? Don’t you order Tesla’s online? Or are these second hand?

[–] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

I don't know. I assume it is either a dealership or a lot for the storage of inventory. They have multiple other Tesla models as well. It hasn't been there long and isn't labeled in Google maps. The photos in street view are years out of date and show buildings that were torn down.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Dealerships for other brands in the US are independent privately owned enterprises not owned by the major auto makers.

Tesla doesn't have dealerships in this sense. They do have corporate owned locations in some states where they are allowed to sell directly to consumers however that is only some states as laws prohibit automakers from selling directly in many.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago

I don't, but know I've definitely seen Tesla dealerships. They have full Tesla branding so I always assumed they were related to the company and not third party.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 43 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"I can't give this thing away."

FTA: He's not trying to give it away. He's expecting last year's used market value for it, but it's steadily depreciating. Someone offered him 50k for it. He overpaid for a new car.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Pretty much, guy's just being a Karen. "Broken TV from the 60's, 500 dollars. Don't low ball me, I know what I have."

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

Aren't you literally not allowed to resale a Tesla (RIP First Sale doctrine)

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

Class-action lawsuit and maybe try not being be an idiot next time

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

the shitposter in me wants to say that this isn't a problem you find a solution to, its karma for doing business with the devil.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fuck tesla in general, but this isn't even that. It's the cost of early adoption. The founder's edition of basically anything is going to be more expensive and less refined than following versions. Once production picks up, nobody really cares about used first runs because it's more of a show-off piece. He's just realizing that the number of people who fawn over his steel box isn't enough to justify keeping that piece of shit.

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

many tesla owners have unfortunatley discovered that the brand value on the market is heavily attached to the personal reputation of elon musk,

[–] uebquauntbez@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

It's a real problem to get rid of Leon Musk too. So this is intentionally.

[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 day ago

Play stupid games...

[–] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Apparently Elon unfollowed MKBHD after he posted selling his Founders Cybertruck at a $50K loss and saying the Rivian RT1 was a better truck lol.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago

Oh no! Did he huwt the widdle man's feewings?

[–] CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net 191 points 2 days ago (20 children)

"can't give this thing away unless I lower the price to probably $79k. Sucks."

A brand new AWD CT from Tesla is $79,990.

Headline is clickbait. Seller is a whinger. Trash all round. Saved you a click.

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[–] Stern@lemmy.world 71 points 2 days ago (2 children)

you can buy a brand-new Cybertruck straight from the manufacturer cheaper than Sledder is asking to sell his used truck.

Wow I wonder why there's no takers

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The paint job is totally worth the extra 19k you guyse!!!!

The article says there's a madman offering 50k cash for it. Poor soul.

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[–] AlternatePersonMan@lemmy.world 281 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"I can't give this thing away." - Guy who is asking $89,000 for a used vehicle that now sells new for $72,500.

Don't buy vehicles from a company led by an unstable Nazi CEO, dipshit.

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 72 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Also, “give away” typically means $0. $89000 is to the best of my knowledge larger than $0. I’ll bet he could give it away, but he doesn’t want to do that.

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[–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 243 points 2 days ago (12 children)
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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 81 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Sledder also shares that over his lifetime, - he has driven and sold over 40 exotic cars, and the Cybertruck is the one vehicle he is having the most trouble finding buyers for.

Oh, I'm so sorry sir, it's frightfully unfair that this particular transaction has not worked out as favorablly as you're used to. Would you care for a sparkling beverage while Life figures out how to make itself better for you?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I refuse to believe you can't find a Bigger Idiot to buy your used Cybertruck.

[–] candybrie@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

Not for the ridiculous price he's trying to sell it for.

[–] Jamablaya@lemmy.today 28 points 2 days ago

Park it front of a hotel with something something has a fuse

[–] Fermion@feddit.nl 125 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Between price drops and the cybertruck recently qualifying for the federal EV tax credit, buyers can get a brand new unit for what this guy is asking. This early adopter paid too much and got a bad deal, but there's no mystery as to why no one wants to buy at his asking price.

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[–] craseng@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Remember? The value of an item is what you get paid for, not what you want to get from it.

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[–] Juice@midwest.social 31 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Expensive lesson, try not being a sucker next time.

"Oh no my shitty car depreciated" god who would have guessed

[–] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 70 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

No one will buy a used car for more than they can get a new one. Who knew?

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 58 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

The Cybertruck owner listed his truck for sale for $89,000.

The same dual-motor Cybertruck AWD variant now starts at $80,000. However, starting in 2025, the vehicle qualifies for the $7,500 point of sale tax credit. This further lowers the starting price to $72,500.

Tesla is also now offering a $2,000 discount to anyone who applies a referral code when buying the vehicle. That further lowers the starting price to $70,500.

LOLOL.

Everyone expects top dollar for used shit these days.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That one is not as bad looking as the rest but it still screams 3rd grade art project

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