Fuck Cars
This community exists as a sister community/copycat community to the r/fuckcars subreddit.
This community exists for the following reasons:
- to raise awareness around the dangers, inefficiencies and injustice that can come from car dependence.
- to allow a place to discuss and promote more healthy transport methods and ways of living.
You can find the Matrix chat room for this community here.
Rules
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Be nice to each other. Being aggressive or inflammatory towards other users will get you banned. Name calling or obvious trolling falls under that. Hate cars, hate the system, but not people. While some drivers definitely deserve some hate, most of them didn't choose car-centric life out of free will.
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This right here sums up the unrealistic expectations of the average Tesla owner. Cars immediately depreciate the moment you drive them off the lot, no car is immune to this. The average new car loses 10% in the first month after buying it. It loses over 20% in the first year. For those who are playing along this track's with exactly how much this doofus has "lost" on his truck.
Also funny that he talks about the price depreciation, while complaining about not being able to sell it. How do you want to sell a buyer on "this will depreciate quickly in price, but please pay a price notably above current market prices"
The theory behind this is that you'd only be selling a slightly used car if it was a lemon. The exception to the rule is resellers who already have a buyer lined up when they take possession of the vehicle.
But because Musk-o-philes are all Bitcoin brained and cannot conceive of prices ever going down, they're routinely shocked to discover that cars are for driving and not for speculating.
Anything's for speculating if you're dumb enough.
No, I'm not eating $2000 worth of fast food, I'm investing. People will pay 10x that for recently deceased human organs, and I'm using my money to unlock that earning potential
Dumb people do dumb things. News at 11.
Though I'd say this one takes it to a whole new level because of a few extra factors:
Not to mention the people Elon is pandering to these days either have trouble affording his vehicles without a dealer trying to convince a bank to take the loan, or can easily afford it but have money in part because they don't spend it on stupid shit like a cyber truck.
All of that on top of the usual depreciation.
Not to mention the stainless steel it's made of is not even the type that resists rusting. Did you see the state of the Cyber truck that MKBHD sold? It look like a fucking derelict prop from a post-apocalyptic movie set.
Tesla's have the absolute worst resale value compared to ICE, PHEV or Hybrids. Batteries degrade over time and with increased usage, so by the time you try to sell a Tesla that's a few years old, a lot of the advertised maximum capacity has escaped from that battery and the cost of a replacement likely exceeds the value of the entire used car.
Two of my coworkers got fantastic deals on used Tesla's because they go for so cheap on the secondary market and California is awash in them so there's always someone somewhere trying to get rid of theirs and usually for less that what it would normally blue book for.
You're right.
Top Gear did a piece about the Aston Martin Vantage. New, £170,000 (GBP). 20,000 miles later it was worth £80,000. 90k depreciation in less than a year.