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[–] wheeldawg@sh.itjust.works 31 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Jobs was an idiot. Chose homeopathic crap instead of medicine. I don't give him credit for anything if he's that dumb.

He's free to do that, sure, but anyone doing so is safe to be labeled "moron" by everyone else.

Unless I've heard a messed up version of events he will stay in the "idiots that were not beneficial to humans in any way" trash can.

[–] deltapi@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

He had one of the few treatable forms of pancreatic cancer and skipped the only known treatment in favour of homeopathic.

If he had "normal" pancreatic cancer I'd maybe give him some slack. It's just not treatable. But what he had was probably survivable had he treated it immediately.

https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/steve-jobs-treatment-biographer-jobs-delayed-surgery-pancreatic/story?id=14781250

[–] wheeldawg@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well if the treatment is specifically miserable, that could be a factor.

[–] turmacar@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The treatment was surgery. Not even weeks/months of chemo.

His treatment of "eat exclusively one type of fruit a week" IIRC almost hospitalized Kushner when he replicated it while doing the biopic.

[–] wheeldawg@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago

Well I tried to give the benefit of doubt even after hating Apple in general. I'm out of ideas of ways he wasn't a complete idiot that was doing stupid things for stupid reasons. And I've always been happy he's dead since I heard he was.

I actively celebrate deaths of stops and evil people alike. I've never seen the point of curbing it under terms like "I don't wish him dead, but I won't be sad to see his obituary". No I am actually am happy he's dead and just giddy to see his obit.

Kinda like I'm sure everyone was glad to see Hitler dead. I just get happy about evil AND stupid people's deaths.

[–] odium@programming.dev 341 points 5 days ago (3 children)
[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 171 points 5 days ago (8 children)

Seriously though. Fuck that guy.

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[–] archonet@lemy.lol 47 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Why, exactly? Genuinely asking. I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm no Apple fan, and he was absolutely an insufferable douchebag to nearly everyone he knew; and was a verifiable self-righteous fuckwit who Darwin'd himself out of existence by choosing woo-woo bullshit over medicine for a very treatable cancer.

Evil, though, I think might be a stretch -- Elon, Thiel, Vance, Trump, Murdoch, the Sackler family, the Koch brothers, etc. all excellent contenders for being truly evil -- but afaik Jobs was just a dickhead with an ego the size of a blimp, and I think we ought not dilute that term with just your run-of-the-mill dickheads. Unless you know something I don't about him.

[–] Xatolos@reddthat.com 63 points 5 days ago

To start with, Jobs lied and cheated Wozniak out of money. And this was Jobs friend, not some random.

If he is willing to do this to his friends, you know he did it to others.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 74 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Parts missing? I don't believe this at all. A phone is basically a single board, screen, battery, lenses, audio bits. Everything is so jammed in that there's no room to think parts are missing. No tech would make this mistake and Apple doesn't benefit from generating a hostile customer experience. This is made up.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 27 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

I used to work for Apple. I don't believe the missing parts story because as you said, how would that even happen. But, if any parts have been replaced, especially the home buttons / finger print reader, they will refuse to fix, and I never understand why. So that may be what happened.

Also Jobs was 100% behind this stuff. It's so annoying when people treat him like he was some tech god. He was a twat.

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[–] DrPop@lemmy.world 41 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Sorry details may be fake, but I do believe an apple employee would pull some shot because policy dictates they sell new equipment over fixing old equipment.

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 19 points 4 days ago

This is made up.

It's a green text lol.

[–] rehydrate5503@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Are you suggesting someone would lie? On the internet?

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Are you suggesting someone would lie? At the Genius Bar?

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[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Of course the tech didn't believe that. However, Apple does benefit from tech illiterate customers buying a new iPhone instead.

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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 186 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Their "repair" program is nothing but a scam to nudge you into buying a new Apple product to replace the broken one with overinflated repair prices and bullshit excuses like that.

Also it works exactly as Steve Jobs intended.

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[–] Gjolin@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

My work got me an Macbook M3. After two weeks of dicking around with it, I went back to my Thinkpad. I don't get it at all. I thought at least the hardware would be great, but I hate the hardware too. Too heavy, aluminum case feels fucking cold to the touch, screen still isn't bright enough to work outside, keyboard has that fucked up layout. And although the M-series sets a nice trend, it currently cannot run GNU/Linux without lots of reverse engineering, so fuck that. My 2014 gen Thinkpad is a far better experience. I'm now even more convinced than ever that Apple is just a marketing cult.

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[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (11 children)

Apple absolutely does NOT slow old phones when they send out new updates. Anymore.

/s

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[–] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 163 points 5 days ago

"Some of the parts were missing"

You motherfuckers put the damn thing together in the first place!

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 63 points 4 days ago (36 children)

what did Steve Jobs even do except for management and marketing, and why does he then get the praise for the hardware/software???

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 35 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] Shortstack@reddthat.com 128 points 5 days ago (8 children)

This is almost exactly what happened to me except they told me my phone had mold growing inside it from the shattered screen I wanted replaced.

The “mold” was pocket lint from waiting a month to get it fixed.

Bitch actually said right to my face that my phone no longer works so let’s get you a new one. I powered on the phone right there and he started backpedaling and grifting ‘oh but it won’t be long tho’. So I went home and still use it with the shattered screen because fuck them.

[–] jumjummy@lemmy.world 35 points 5 days ago (3 children)

FYI, you can replace the screen yourself. I’ve replaced the screen and battery on an older iPhone. Bought the parts off Amazon, watched a YouTube video and that’s it. Super tiny screws so it may help if you have a magnifying glass (or one of those magnifying + light units for painting miniatures).

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[–] Sir_Premiumhengst@lemmy.world 85 points 5 days ago (1 children)

At least where I live, if the bootleg repair place isn't slightly moldy, it's a scam. Rundown, old white tiles on the wall, chipped mirror somewhere, a frail curtain to separate the back area from the front counter, and, in summer, a mandatory swiveling standing fan. That's where your phone will get a second lease on its live!

[–] Benjaben@lemmy.world 26 points 5 days ago

Never did a lot of specifically phone repair, but all the computer and misc electronics repair I've worked at follow a similar pattern to yours. To add to it - there should be cobbled together racks, behind the flimsy curtain, filled with devices of many vintages in many states of (dis)repair.

The cleaner the place and the steeper the price, a lotta times the better the proprietor is at business than at electronics, lol

[–] MightyCuriosity@sh.itjust.works 46 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Real story: A friend of mine used his iPhone on his motorcycle and it messed up the OIS. He went to Apple, said they wouldn't fix it. He went to a third party and they told him they basically have to beg Apple to fix it and get parts so he'd have to leave his phone for a week to MAYBE get it fixed by the grace of the big fruit. He bought a new iPhone. I still don't understand why.

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[–] not_woody_shaw@lemmy.world 67 points 5 days ago

The missing part was a brand new iPhone or two.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 47 points 5 days ago (8 children)

Fake and gay. They will never say your device has parts missing since they know most customers aren't that stupid. They most of the time say you have water damage or it's too old for repair.

The Apple Genius Bar sucks ass. But let's not pretend like any of the other big tech companies do any better. At least Apple has a physical store where they can fuck you over in person. Try getting Samsung shit repaired. In most countries they let a 3rd party company do the handling and repairs and you can't visit that company. You have to send it in and if they deem your device unrepairable or "not" broken they send it back and you have to pay for shipping both ways even if the device falls under warranty and sometimes they send it back more broken then when it left your hands. While communication happens solely trough email.

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 5 days ago (6 children)

I worked the Genius Bar for 3 years and only left a couple of years ago.

I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt, in the UK at least, that there is no lying going on. We don’t care about upselling you anything. If we can repair your phone or replace the battery we will.

The reason we decline for say water damage or unauthorised repair is because they want to guarantee the repairs with a warranty and that is hard to do when it has been water damaged or someone else has been in and maybe fucked something up.

Plenty of shit Apple do wrong but the service here is top notch compared to any other manufacturer.

[–] Skates@feddit.nl 19 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Plenty of shit Apple do wrong but the service here is top notch compared to any other manufacturer.

I don't understand how this can ever be argued when apple's record against consumer's right to repair is like a dictator's record against their own people.

Is this a case of "Yeah, he killed millions of citizens, that's true. But he really developed infrastructure"?

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[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Apple a bad company? Really? I neeeeever eeeeever heard anything bad about aaaaaple.

No shit Sherlock, it'd obvious AF. It's one of the wealthiest companies in the world. They didn't get all that money with honesty. Child labor, slave labor, ripping off consumers, creating a whole new level of corporate greed. Apple is as evil as you can get. Just like Nvidia, Shell, Google, Nestlé, etc.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 31 points 5 days ago (8 children)
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