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[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 122 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Is some idiot trying to outlaw medical equipment in the States?

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 79 points 4 days ago (7 children)
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[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 43 points 4 days ago (6 children)
[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 24 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Nice... Using a law that was meant for the Ku Klux Klan to repress democratic routine and freedom. At least that one seems to be targeted at protests and not all every day life. And it contains exemptions. I'm just not sure if "we want to film the faces of everyone who doesn't agree with us" is a valid reason in a democracy. At least not on it's own and if there isn't some good reason to do it.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 4 days ago (11 children)

At least that one seems to be targeted at protests

You're celebrating that, rather than accidentally targeting immunocompromised people, it deliberately targets people exercising their constitutional right to dissent?

Btw, like with abortion, any exemptions a GOP ban has will just be a fig leaf for the complicit media that's not going to be in effect in the vast majority of cases.

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[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 72 points 4 days ago (11 children)

It’s important to note that the mask is far more effective in stopping the wearer from transmitting a virus than it is in stopping the wearer from contracting a virus.

High risk individuals rely on others wearing their mask to protect them from infection. Those people will effectively be relegated to their homes through the virus season if they want to remain safe. Hopefully they have the money to pay for deliveries for the season.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 37 points 4 days ago

I can't believe we are you still have to explain this in 2024. I have zero faith in humanity left, aside from Luigi ofc.

[–] Maiq@lemy.lol 20 points 4 days ago (6 children)

The reason they want you to not wear masks is, facial recognition that is literally everywhere doesn't work if your masked. You can help protect the vulnerable and yourself from invasive tracking with this one simple trick.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 4 days ago (2 children)

That may be a side effect but it's not the reason.

The reason is that they don't want to be told what to do by the government. They want to use the government to tell other people what to do.

"Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect."

This is about wielding power.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago

Just to pile on to that thought, it's also a wedge issue that makes stupid people very angry, and angry people are motivated to be politically active. They will shout down reasonable people, commit acts of violence, and vote in reliable numbers. Polite society tends to avoid political debate, in part because the angry morons show up to disrupt the quiet.

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[–] RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

It’s important to note that the mask is far more effective in stopping the wearer from transmitting a virus than it is in stopping the wearer from contracting a virus.

While this is generally true, I'd be remiss if I didn't point out that a properly-fitted respirator provides very good protection. Even more so if it's an elastomeric with P100 filters (99.97% PFE with absurdly high fit factors).

But...

You're absolutely right, if everyone would consistently wear at least an earloop respirator like a KF94 or KN95 — even if the quality is a bit sketchy and even if the fit is less than ideal — that would cut down on viral particulate emissions a great deal and task your own respirator with orders of magnitude less particulate to filter out.

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[–] Lifecoach5000@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yep I’ve had a cold all last week and have been masking up for my grocery runs. It’s just about being a decent human being.

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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 52 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Anti-maskers are like 6 year olds throwing a tantrum because you're making them eat broccoli.

[–] gedhrel@lemmy.world 53 points 4 days ago

More like because you're eating broccoli.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago

If it's a complete mask ban, then it's more like they're throwing a tantrum because you're eating broccoli.

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[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The mayor of NYC is talking about it because of Luigi. My brother in Christ, Luigi doesn't care about your mask ban.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

Ok, Mayor Adams, you're in favor of a mask ban.

So anyway, back to what we were talking about, why haven't you resigned despite being indicted for corruption and influence-peddling?

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 42 points 4 days ago (4 children)

is this under the assumption that this isn't the point? they're fascists, getting rid of disabled people is on brand and purposeful.

reminder that the party of "death panels will kill your grandma if anyone gets affordable healthcare" actively called for the death of grandmas when they didn't want to be inconvenienced by a piece of cloth over their mouth.

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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 37 points 4 days ago (3 children)

lets turn this around on them. they aren't banning masks... they're banning Halloween.

they're trying to cancel Halloween! what's next, Christmas?!

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

they aren’t banning masks… they’re banning Halloween.

I'm more than confident that the NYPD will make an exception for something that's lucrative to Big Business. The issue is that medical masks outside of one day in October aren't highly profitable, while CCTV cameras on every corner and AI facial recognition running across a thousand enormous data centers absolutely is.

Can't justify the enormous state investment in spying if these high profile assassinations demonstrate the holes in the system. So we just make masks illegal (except on the one day when it makes businesses money) and tell people with weak immune systems to eat shit.

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[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 46 points 4 days ago (8 children)

They know, they don't care.

American individualist propaganda has a load of people believing they're free to do whatever the fuck they like, and fuck anyone who tries to stop them.

Selflessness is a rejected concept to them, they will never productively participate in a community of people.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Individualism for me, fashion police for you!

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[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 20 points 4 days ago (6 children)
[–] Sinthesis@lemmy.today 24 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Nassau County in NY state passed a law this summer https://www.nyclu.org/press-release/nassau-county-mask-ban-signed-into-law YES, there are exceptions for health, religious or cultural reasons BUT they've also used it as probable cause to search someone https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/nassau-county-police-issue-first-face-mask-ban-violation/5741363/ (it doesn't matter that he was found with a knife. My son wears a mask because he thinks his nose is ugly)

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In the UK we have the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994 section 60aa where the police are able to make anyone within an area remove a mask when a there is a large crowd and a senior cop decides to fill in the paperaorj. There has been a recent increase in its usage in the last 4-ish years.

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[–] Floshie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I wouldn't be surprised if they were the kind of people to say that disabled people are a burden to society

[–] Spitzspot@lemmings.world 23 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Disabled people were some of the first German gas chamber victims.

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[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

As a disabled person you’re spot on.

It’s the kind of people saying that disabled people should just “get on with their life” and stop “making everything about their disability”.

Like yeah sure Bradley, I would do that, if I could get on with my life because c*nts like you didn’t deny every attempt at making the world accessible. Maybe if people like you didn’t complain every time a cent was spent on an accessibility fund or on medical research I would actually be able to be getting on with my life.

But no, since we’re treated like shit I have to make “everything about my disability” just for my basic survival. Because if I don’t I’ll just be left in a ditch to starve.

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[–] Mango@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago

Banning masks only serves to increase the overreach of our surveillance state.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Ski Masks is my Religion

It is commandment one of the Church of the Holy Skiers that Ski Masks are a mandatory Religious Garmet. This is a blashphemy against my Religion! A clear violation of my first amendment rights!

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