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Yippee Kay Yay... (The only movie that doesn't depresses me in Xmas)

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 51 points 1 week ago (2 children)

My dad was arguing that it wasn't because being set at Christmas isn't enough, and said a bunch of things typical of a Christmas movie to have; while I countered with a list of things that happen in Die Hard that met his criteria.

"Someone needs to receive a gift."

"McClane was gifted a machine gun."

"There needs to be a miracle."

"It's a miracle John survived."

"It needs to capture the feeling of Christmas."

"Have you never spent time with your relatives at Christmas? It feels just like being held hostage at Nakatomi Plaza."

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Haha this is very funny.

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[–] nek0d3r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 1 week ago
[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] kamenlady@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

What We Left Behind made me feel idk. I loved seeing everyone again and some of the background info, but part of me wants to forget i ever saw it.

I don't know why, i love DS9. My next rewatch would be the 9th.

I was hyped for the documentary and couldn't wait to get to see it.

Missed Sisko.

Edit: on topic, i think Die Hard is Santa's favorite christmas movie - but really only the first one.

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[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 27 points 1 week ago

I mean if a movie like It's A Wonderful Life can be a Christmas movie, despite most of it not having anything to do with Christmas, then so can Die Hard.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 week ago

subtract chrismas from the plot: you have no chrismas party filling a finished floor of the office tower with future hostages; you have no cross-county traveling hero to save-the-day. becomes a six page script and an easy in-and-out for snape and co.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 23 points 1 week ago

Gremlins is also a Christmas movie.

So is Mortal Kombat from the 90s. It’s all about people fighting to be number 1. Just like Christmas shopping.

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The real Xmas movie is Eyes Wide Shut

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You NEED to download the 35mm scan.

Fucking distributors did Stanley dirty cleaning it up for release. It was under exposed and overdeveloped on purpose to make the film grain pop.

[–] rezz@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (5 children)

What’s the best way to sail the seas for this?

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[–] Bashnagdul@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There are 2 kinds of people, those who say die hard is a Christmas movie, and those who are wrong.

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[–] ZagamTheVile@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No and I'm tired of people pretending it is. Now, Gremlins on the other hand.

[–] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

I'd say they both have equal standing. Diehard couldn't happen. If it wasn't for the corporate Christmas party and Grimlin's because of the poorly thought out, last minute Christmas gift.

[–] Sergio@slrpnk.net 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Why Die Hard is a Christmas Movie:

  • there's a grinch who spoils the party
  • "You're, uh...?" "Clay. Bill Clay." (checks directory to see if naughty or nice)
  • need help? call a plump do-gooder (the cop at the donut shop)
  • anxiously expecting a vehicle to land on the roof
  • "It's Christmas, Theo! It's the time of miracles, so be of good cheer!"
  • a good guy climbs down the chimney / elevator shaft
[–] Susaga@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Also, it's about a man attending a party in order to fix his family, and he needs to learn to let go of his pride. Classic Christmas movie message.

[–] rwtwm@feddit.uk 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Jumping on here, because this is often overlooked. If you didn't know the title of the film, and someone played the first 20 mins to you you'd expect a hallmark film. Going to see the estranged wife, trying to repair a relationship, the awkwardness at the Christmas party.

The whole thing subverts Christmas movie tropes. It's not just an action movie set at Christmas. It's a Christmas movie which gets hijacked.

Even the final scene plays on the parody with the 'snow' falling, the comedy comeuppance for the nuisance bad guy, and then they kiss and drive off as 'let it snow' plays.

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[–] chillinit@lemmynsfw.com 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The last thing it seemed like many perceived they had in common was Tiger King.

Now it's support for murder as a necessary means of change.

This is progress.

Yippee Kai Yay, motherfucker.

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[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In the same way that tomatoes are fruit and bananas are berries.

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago

Technically correct. The best kind of correct.

[–] BOFH666@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Hell yeah! Of course, best Christmas movie ever. Multicasting it over the corporate network since last Monday and won't kill the process before 2025!

now i've got a machine gun ho ho ho!

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

No, we agree that “Die Hard is a Christmas movie” is a fun proposition to entertain, either because it’s edgy and freaks the mundanes with its audacious disregard for cherished norms, or (more recently) because it’s a fun meme, with own line of commercially available ugly Christmas sweaters and knowingly ironic greeting cards. Though the meme eventually will become so overexposed that quoting from Die Hard on Christmas will become as basic and mid as dressing up in a Santa costume and drunkenly making an arse of yourself with several hundred similarly attired dudes.

[–] Sc00ter@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago (5 children)

It is literally set at a christmas party. Without christmas, that movie doesnt happen

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That’s a glib technicality, but not sufficient to make it a “Christmas movie” in the usual sense. The Christmas party is a plot device, and could have been replaced with a different one without significantly altering the plot of the film.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The Muppets Christmas Carol is my favourite Christmas movie.

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[–] Jackthelad@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] yesman@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Haters will say this is fake:

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 9 points 1 week ago

This is such an exhausting topic. Anyone saying it isn't a Christmas movie either hasn't seen it recently enough to remember it or they're being contraian. It takes place during Christmas, a Christmas party even. It has Christmas music woven into the soundtrack. The b plot is the main character fixing his marriage (a common theme of Christmas movies is fixing families).

To be honest, I sort of would view people arguing that it isn't a Christmas movie like people arguing Red One isn't a Christmas movie because it is primarily an action movie. Red One is more obvious due to the marketing and the fact it's literally about saving Santa after he is kidnapped, but it's still very moreso an action movie than other similar titles (The Santa Clause also has a kidnapped Santa subplot and a team of elite elves rescue him, but it is much more minor).

[–] qevlarr@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Every movie that's set during Christmas is a Christmas movie. I'm watching Eyes Wide Shut with my wife tonight

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[–] dditty@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

To me, Die Hard is a Christmas movie because it is set on Christmas Eve. I don't think it technically counts as a Christmas movie, but that just makes me consider it a Christmas movie even harder

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[–] Mk23simp@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

One of my friends had this take on it:

Die Hard can't be a Christmas movie because Die Hard is actually good.

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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] LifeOfChance@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

I think its important to establish why it's a Christmas movie. I consider it one not just because it's Christmas time in the movie but because it's heavily Christmas themed the entire movie. For this exact same reason I think other movies also fall into this category like gremlins and terrifier 3.

[–] mrnarwall@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

It's about a man at a Christmas party that has gone incredibly wrong. It's a Christmas movie

[–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Diehard is 100% a Christmas movie, however, Die Hard 2 which also takes place at Christmas time, is NOT a Christmas movie, as the fact that it's Christmas is coincidental and not at all integral to the plot.

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

My wife claims

  • die hard is not a Christmas movie

Yet

  • the sound of music is

She's so gorgeous but sometimes I just don't understand her.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 week ago

Die Hard, the grade school musical?

[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Absolutely. There can be zero disagreement on this.

[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago

Yes, along with the dress being blue.

[–] mrslt@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Well, yeah. What else would it be?

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

Bruce thinks it’s a Bruce Willis movie.

… he gets a pass.

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