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[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 87 points 1 year ago (13 children)

A generation's fault =/= the fault of every individual in that generation

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 96 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Correct. But climate change is specifically the fault only of this Grandma.

[–] sour@feddit.de 53 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Correct. What many don't know is that this Grandma used to be an Exxon Executive.

[–] spudwart@spudwart.com 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

She also burnt our crops, poisoned our water supply and sent a plague unto our houses.

[–] brey1013@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And that grandma's name? Ronald Reagan.

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[–] NotSoCoolWhip@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (11 children)

No snowflake thinks they're responsible for the avalanche

[–] NickwithaC@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Except it literally is the fault of like 30 people. We can directly pinpoint the cause of the problem onto the actions of specific individuals.

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[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All this rhetoric does is make people feel good about not doing anything, though. If your government is ruining the world and you blithely sit by and even actively vote for that very same government, you are absolutely to blame.

We all have a moral obligation to fight for what's right, obviously not everyone can be an armed revolutionary but almost everyone can organize and spread knowledge.

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[–] MrPoopyButthole@lemm.ee 73 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Grandma must pay for her sins. We might not be able to save the world, but maybe we can avenge it.

[–] Todesschnitzel@lemm.ee 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I wish she would. But nooooo they are just gonna die while guzzling down her payments, for which I have to work 10 years longer for and will get less no matter what.

I AM SO SICK OF IT

Edit: I don't want to avenge anything anymore. I am just so tired of this hopeless situation, where no one who could do something, does anything to prevent it.

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[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now in cinemas: The Avengers vs Climate Grandma

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 57 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It's really not the fault of any individual. Well okay yes it is, but it's like 200 individuals at the very upper echelons of society.

[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Are we gonna ignore that literally everyone voted for Reagan in the 80s?

Except based Minnesota? Weird.

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[–] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

So, are we going to do something about that? Did we just whoopsi 200 bad people in the upper echelons of society? I think some systemic analysis is needed.

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[–] HardlightCereal@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago (15 children)

My grandma used to say she didn't give a fuck about climate change because she's old and she'll be dead before it destroys the earth. Now she needs the air con to live in summer. I hope she dies of heat stroke.

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 56 points 1 year ago

I too blame this mans grandma

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[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I remember when we used to have to squeeze our Halloween costumes over our snowsuits in Canada because it was too cold to go without. I don't find it that cold anymore. And snow every December. I only ever saw one green Christmas as a kid in the 1980s.

I hate this timeline so much.

[–] theragu40@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Every time there is snow we make damn sure to get our kids outside to enjoy it. I hate to say it out loud but at the rate we're going I'm not at all certain we'll still have snow here in a few years. And I'm in Wisconsin, we're supposed to be part of the frozen north.

Every single year winter gets milder. It snows later and thaws earlier. I have to make sure my sump pump is ready to run year round. We used to ice fish around Thanksgiving. Now I barely get to go ice fishing at all unless I drive north a couple hours.

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[–] satans_crackpipe@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago (3 children)

We need to punch up and stop infighting.

[–] LostWon@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Seriously. It's infuriating. It's exactly because people are so divided by wedge issues that we don't have progress on this. Governments will keep ignoring climate change (and the global extinction event associated with it) as long as voters don't make it a high priority.

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[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 39 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Such a weird take. As if millennials and Gen Z/X would have behaved any different if we were born in grandma's generation.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

And they talk like no one protested in the 1960s about this same stuff during their generation

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT51CBN8ppu2aq9IKKyJYO_BtwUjoIM6x1irw&usqp=CAU

I mean someone back then was making these anti establishment songs popular:

https://www.denvercenter.org/news-center/protest-songs-of-the-60s-and-70s/

There was definitely an audience.

You’d think with this attitude they think this kind of idea only just started with the current generation. Current gen are sure in for a surprise in the future when the next generation accuse them of compliance. Their time will come. And they allowed Trump. So they will have a ton to answer for cuz they were supposed to know better what with their blaming the previous generation for the exact things he made worse.

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[–] yoz@aussie.zone 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yea but at least now we can blame it on boomers.

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[–] sirico@feddit.uk 34 points 1 year ago

Nestle and Shell "yeah Grandma"

[–] CalamityPayne@jlai.lu 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

Entered the comments looking to correct the narrative. Looks like that work is already done :)

I like Lemmy

Edit: blame the system, not the people bound by the system.

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[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (18 children)

You say that but I currently know middle managers from the gen x and millennial generation expecting people to drive into work when they could be running their businesses from home and should be minimalizing the emissions. Grandma didn’t make them do that.

Taylor swift and her private jet are of the millennial timeline.

I don’t know a lot of grandmas with a private jet.

And grandma isn’t providing you all with the plastic bottle waste. She isn’t forcing Coca Cola down your throat. Which btw is still being enjoyed by millenials who still are keeping these giant assholes in business. Grandma didn’t make you do that.

Grandmas aren’t forcing you to drive a combustible engine car.

Grandmas aren’t calling up to make the oil companies dump into the sea.

Grandmas aren’t releasing c8 into all the water infecting everyone just so you can have some non stick floss.

These are current day decisions. They are STILL current day decisions of the current generation in power of decision to continue to use, take advantage of, build on top of or change.

so don’t shuffle off the blame off yourself and your own generation are doing to your grandma for what these fuck faces are continuing to be doing in the current generations running the show. They have their own free will and choice to fuck us all up with their selfish behaviour.

If anything: grandmas may have even taught a few people how to knit. And cook frugal with little food because some even lived through a war. Those are actually sustainable hobbies believe it or not. That’s not something you can ‘attribute’ to current day generations for all the shit they partake in that isn’t sustainable. /rant over.

[–] RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca 41 points 1 year ago (5 children)

And who, pray tell, voted for the populist shitbags that ushered in the capitist coup that perpetuated fossil fuel and consumerist lifestyles at an accelerating rate and borrowed against their childrens' and grandchildrens' futures?

Carter tried to warn them, but it turns out boomers didn't like being called out on their shit, so they replaced him with one corporate stooge after another.

Boomers aren't entirely to blame, but they are far from blameless.

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[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

First, it's a meme. The context is the grandma is of the generation since the meme is a known thing. It's not specifically calling out grandmas. That seems a bit lost on you.

Second, they did make the decisions we are currently in and fought to make it conventional knowledge. They allowed the mechanisms of balance within the government to go so far off the scale that coming back it so daunting I am not sure how it can get there.

And third, it's a joke. Jokes have hints of truths and hints of fiction. They should provocative healthy discussions. It comes off as super aggressive at some meme. No one is attacking you personally by posting this.

If you are pissed at the situation, I understand. I'm pissed too.

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[–] SlikPikker@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Capitalism is to blame. Not individuals or generations..

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

'Round here it hasn't really ever gotten cold until the day of Halloween for as long as I've lived here. It's always so wild, too. 80-90's up until the 31st then bam low 50's to mid 60's, windy and rainy. Like instead of using a dimmer to gradually change seasons, it's a binary switch from summer to winter.

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[–] floppade@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

Even if it’s not as cold, going from 120 for weeks to 80 suddenly makes me feel like I’m fucking freezing all the time.

[–] International_buy549@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's 34° C here I want to fukin die

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[–] jetsetdorito@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

it's supposed to be 90°F next week 😭😭😭

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