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City puts $10,000 bounty of trans people’s heads if they use a public restroom (www.lgbtqnation.com)

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[–] Ragdoll_X@lemmy.world 26 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 33 minutes ago) (3 children)

Despite what the law might say, there's no evidence whatsoever that letting trans people use their preferred bathroom causes any "injury or harm" to cis people.

To the contrary, there is evidence that restricting bathroom access is harmful to trans people - and cis people too, like Jay, a cis woman who was harassed in a bathroom after being mistaken for a trans person.

Even if they use the "right" restroom trans people are in danger of being harassed all the same if they pass too well: https://www.advocate.com/news/2022/7/12/trans-man-brutally-assaulted-using-womens-restroom-campground

Damned if you do, and damned if you don't. The point of laws like this isn't to protect cis women and girls, it's just to cause as much suffering as possible, because that's all Republicans care about.

[–] valek879@sh.itjust.works 6 points 43 minutes ago

Also there is evidence that it is harmful to cis people. Especially cis women who might be queer or straight or gender nonconforming or not. These fuckwads always forget trans men exist and just harass women more with this shit. They don't give a fuck off you're trans or not, it's about control. And their especially interested in controlling women.

It's also directly tied to fascism. Eco points to Machismo in point 12 of Ur-Fascism. "[Fascists hold] both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality." Meaning it's not just women, trans women, gay men, people outside of traditional 1940s gender roles, but it also includes straight, cis men who just don't seem to be straight and cis enough.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 1 points 10 minutes ago* (last edited 9 minutes ago)

What, we're supposed to let them use the restroom that matches their identity just because it's the moral right thing to do, costs us nothing, and the alternative harms everyone!? Sounds like someone is WOKE!!!

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 3 points 43 minutes ago

harmful to trans people.

And there's the true intent of the Republican legislators.

[–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 72 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

FYI Texas has been marked as a "do not travel" state on Erin Reed's trans risk map: https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/final-pre-election-2024-anti-trans

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I think that was inevitable unfortunately...

[–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 hour ago

I'm in one of the worst states, I'm scared about where things are going ...

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 10 points 58 minutes ago

Fucking Texas.

[–] _bcron_@lemmy.world 12 points 1 hour ago

Step 1: Identify as cat

Step 2: Turn yourself in

Step 3: Claim 10,000 bucks

Step 4: No crime was committed, goto 1

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 42 points 1 hour ago (5 children)

Pop Quiz:

Which bathroom should he use?

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 9 points 41 minutes ago

That's OBVIOUSLY a Woman and should use my Daughter's Bathroom!

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 2 points 13 minutes ago

I'm gonna need to see his tits first. Duh.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 29 minutes ago

The one with the toilet.

[–] uberdroog@lemmy.world 16 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

As long as it's not my stall, I don't care

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 points 9 minutes ago

Pssshhhhh!!!! Look at this bourgeoisie mother fucker over here, refusing to share their stall with others!

Selfish. Yes, that's the word!

The common working man poops on the left half of the toilet, and a stranger from the streets poop on the right half! AND THEY BOTH HATE THE YANKEES!!!

Because fuck the Yankees. Can't believe I have to cheer for the god damn Dodgers ......

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 15 points 1 hour ago

He can use mine

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 18 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Whichever he want to use. Period.

[–] Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world 8 points 49 minutes ago

Just like everyone else.

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 hour ago

While the bounty is set to a minimum of $10,000, there is no cap on how large the bounty can be.

[–] tilefan@lemm.ee 1 points 7 minutes ago

is there an easy way for us to abuse this system to get ourselves paid a bunch of money?

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world -5 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 54 minutes ago) (2 children)

A bounty on trans people? So I get paid by the state to catch 'em and turn 'em in so they can be issued their 'up to $500 fine'? How cost ineffective.

Ah, it's misinformation and done so poorly, in an attempt to dramatise, they used the wrong word.

So, the $10,000 is actually for lawsuits and can start there if anyone found guilty of the crime had also caused damages. That's very normal for laws of people being somewhere they've been told not to be and damaging stuff. Like if I break the toilet seat I'm standing on while peering over the top of the cubicle to watch you pee.

It's articles like this that do not help a cause at all.

It can only be assumed this works in favour of anyone on that 5-2 vote that doesn't like trans people. If that's the case then it should be attacking gender identity issues for bathroom use, not trespass laws started in 1989 using binaries. (Yes, in an effort to get the actual information, I read other actual news articles)

[–] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 5 points 38 minutes ago

Are you willfully ignorant or do you not understand how Jim Crow laws work?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Crow_laws

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 5 points 36 minutes ago* (last edited 35 minutes ago)

https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/odessa-tx-just-put-10000-bounties

As far as I can see, the article doesn't misrepresent this law. It says that anyone has standing to sue a trans person for using a gender-appropriate bathroom, and the damages of at least $10,000 would be awarded if the trans person lost the lawsuit. Normally, as I understand it, you wouldn't have standing unless someone's activity had probably harmed you, but by waiving this the door is open for the trans person's use of a bathroom to be judged harmful in itself. So, a bounty on trans people.