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The poll shows that public views of Musk are increasingly polarized, with Republican support of the billionaire rising while Democratic support falls.

Elon Musk’s support among Democrats has withered to a new low as he has embraced Republican politics, according to a national NBC News poll

Only 6% of Democrats in the poll, which was conducted Sept. 13-17, said they had positive feelings about Musk, while 79% said they had negative feelings. The numbers were flipped for Republicans, with 62% having positive feelings toward him and 14% negative feelings. Independents were split, 31% to 36%. 

The poll shows that views of Musk are increasingly polarized, reflecting the transformation of his public image in recent years from that of an environmentally aware automaker crusading against fossil fuels to that of a conservative activist aligned with former President Donald Trump.

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[–] Soup@lemmy.cafe 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Why are we tracking this assholes popularity like he is someone relevant to anything that requires popularity?

He’s a tech douche. Who fucking cares what percentage of popularity he holds!? He’s not running for office. He’s not even qualified to.

[–] extremeboredom@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Why in God's good name would I care about Elon Muskrat's popularity among Democrats?

[–] Soup@lemmy.cafe 1 points 22 hours ago

Right? Just said the same thing. Man. Journalism is getting cringey and embarrassing lately.

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

YOU might not. But I'm sure the politicians and bureaucrats who determine whether Musk's businesses continue getting billions in taxpayer funded subsidies would sure like to know if the public is behind continuing to do that. I for one would consider it a bonus if say, the Democrats won control in November, looked at the numbers and decided none of their supporters are behind Musk, determined he's been playing fast and loose using taxpayer dollars to fund pushing his own political agenda, and turned off the free ride.

[–] extremeboredom@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Since when do his enablers in government give one single flying fuck what the People think?

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They don't. But if they already have it in for someone, which the Democrats in Congress almost certainly do right now, public opinion can give them a cover to act.

It's certainly not for our benefit, but if one group of shitlords wants to take another shitlord down a few pegs, I'm certainly going to enjoy the show.

[–] extremeboredom@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I can dig it

[–] VantaBrandon@lemmy.world 76 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Thats fine, I'm sure Republicans will start buying EVs any day now

[–] beebarfbadger@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The next tesla model will have a coal oven inside it. Will still run on electricity, the oven is just in there so you can do some pollution too. The main factor in making the electric part palpable to republicans will be telling them how brown people are being exploited to get the materials for the batteries out of the ground.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Nah, it will be worse. Tesla will start selling a hybrid model with a generator onboard that can charge the battery as you go. That generator will be designed to be fueled by ground-up burning tires, unrecycleable plastic, and human hair. .

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 288 points 2 days ago (10 children)

The fuck is wrong with that 6%?

[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 213 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They are stock holders, left holding the bag.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 93 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Haha I think I met one!

Dude was a eco-friendly pro-Kamala pro-weed driving a Tesla.

When I made a joke about buying a Tesla before Elon went crazy, he kinda sheepishly shrugged and then excitedly talked about all the new things Tesla is coming out with.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 45 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Being excited about technological progress at Tesla or SpaceX doesn't mean you're a fan or supporter of Musk. These companies are full of thousands of engineers doing this work while the absentee CEO is spending his time shitposting and driving Twitter into the ground.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 28 points 2 days ago (2 children)

He's holding them back with his ego.

[–] Zementid@feddit.nl 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

True. If the engineers and market experts would have had a say in this, they would have made a Micro-Van.

6 Seats, 3.5x1.8 meters, 300km range, flat pack floor folding seats in the back.... AND ALLOWED IN EUROPE FOR NOT BEING A PEDESTRIAN KILLING MACHINE.

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[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I 100% agree with that and think they need to kick him to the curb. What influence and publicity he could generate for the companies 10 years ago is now long gone and has now transformed into a giant liability.

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[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 54 points 2 days ago (11 children)

Full Self Driving super soon except you still need to intervene regularly and also robotaxis will never work so it's pointless anyway!

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 26 points 2 days ago (7 children)

5 years.

Pinky swear.

Oh, and Mars.. 2025. I meant 202025

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[–] Cheems@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago

They bought a Tesla and now feel like they have to defend their decision

Probably normie centrists that believe in the myth of a free market economy and supports social safety nets but abhors anyone who uses them.

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[–] SassyRamen@lemmy.world 49 points 2 days ago

6% is waaay too high

Concerning!

[–] garretble@lemmy.world 123 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

“I, a genius, will alienate the group who want EVs to curry favor with the group who will never buy EVs. Genius, I say.”

[–] NJSpradlin@lemmy.world 43 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

He has to satisfy the guys they fronted him the billions he needed to buy and destroy Twitter.

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We cannot explain why it's this high

[–] pingveno@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Sure we can. Given the choice, a small percentage of people in a poll will always pick the worst answer. Is Hitler still alive, living in Argentina, and I want to give him a real nice blow job? 5% say yes, yes, and yes.

[–] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 46 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (10 children)

Who. Fucking. Cares.

(Not directed at OP, just the idea of the survey in general. Who needed to know this information? Why do they think the public needs to know how popular a random rich guy it's.)

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 44 points 2 days ago (2 children)

he's not a random rich guy and claiming that is either disingenuous or irresponsible. though i get the frustration, just because he's a demonic troglodyte you wish you never heard about anymore doesn't mean you get to ignore his existence. then they get to do whatever they want.

pushback, scrutiny and ridicule are the only tools we have against massively influential cunts. and because they're massively influential, their popularity matters.

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[–] gt24@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Someone may want to know if you are a Democrat or Republican (for advertising, for gerrymandering, whatever). That person may not be able to ask you a direct question like that though (or may feel that you may lie about the answer to such a question anyway).

As such, they likely carry out occasional surveys asking people who are Democrat or Republicans for their opinions on something else. Once they find something else that can strongly correlate your political affiliation with a specific opinion, they know of a new question they can ask someone. That new question should generally reveal what your political party is most likely and they can then proceed with that "most likely" answer.

So "who cares" is those who cannot directly ask you something. They will ask you something else and use that answer to deduce the information they cannot obtain directly.

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[–] angrystego@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Money is power. Rich people are more powerful than politics. We should care much more about them than we do now. Musk is dangerous. He's also visible and that's a good thing. The quiet invisible ones are even more dangerous.

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Considering how politically active he is, he might become a politician (even running for president?). A lot of people will care about this if suddenly Elon musk appears in American ballots.

EDIT: I just remembered that Elon cannot run for USA president. But idk if other political positions are open.

And seeing how trump can break every law, I don't see what would prevent Elon from running for president.

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[–] ryan213@lemmy.ca 67 points 2 days ago

Still too high.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 42 points 2 days ago

Really good way to sell electric cars. Good job Elon.

[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Poll of whom, you ask?

Interviews: 1,000 Registered Voters, including 870 respondents interviewed via cellphone. Date: September 13-17, 2024

They obviously don't poll those of us who don't answer calls from numbers we don't recognize.

And don't return sketchy voicemails. We Olde learned this in the days of "Caller ID" as an extra paid service.

[–] slurpeesoforion@startrek.website 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So you're saying those numbers could be lower? Lower indeed. Maybe into the negative.

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[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 45 points 2 days ago (10 children)

Fuck Elon

Fuck Tesla

Fuck Xitter

Fuck Spa Sex

Fuck Starlink

Did I miss anyone? Oh yes, and Fuck Elon.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 38 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Neuralink.

Fuck that shit, too.

(Especially when you learn about thiel and the other tech Bros plans to harvest humans for biofuel by keeping them alive and hooked up in a virtual world. As a more "humane alternative to genocide")

https://newrepublic.com/article/183971/jd-vance-weird-terrifying-techno-authoritarian-ideas

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 24 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Why do these people keep looking at the Matrix as a manual instead of a warning?

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[–] 96VXb9ktTjFnRi@feddit.nl 5 points 2 days ago

I can only see 'being a billionaire' as 'stealing from the population at large'. So you're saying the biggest thief of society is still popular among 6% of democrats.

[–] TacticsConsort@yiffit.net 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Christ, he's ACTUALLY managed to hit the Lizardman Constant with the dems.

Now hit it with the Repubs too. Come on Trump. You wanna turn on your ally. You wanna turn on your ally and throw him to your cult soooooo badly. It'll be really funny I promise

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 4 points 2 days ago

Trump is easy to manipulate. Go on Truth Social, astroturf the shit out of the idea that Musk is going to backstab Trump. Sit back and enjoy the show.

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[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I sure fucking hope it's not 94% for Republicans.

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[–] letsgo2themall@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Big if true!

[–] OppositeOfOxymoron@infosec.pub 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm surprised it's not a negative number.

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[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Something to avoid- standing near a parked Tesla with sentry mode enabled drains its battery significantly as it tracks you. Locating a camera and displaying a paper sign, one light enough to blow in the wind that reads “musk sucks”, would accomplish the same thing, and should also be avoided.

[–] cubism_pitta@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (11 children)

While funny... I think you underestimate how big the battery in a Tesla is and also how little power the computer would pull.

THAT said... I wonder if there is a drive somewhere that could be filled doing that?

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