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Also, you have been turned into a worm. (lemmy.world)
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[-] esc27@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Given an infinite number of rooms and guests, it is highly likely both he and the boulder are already there. So he should go to the hotel where he already is and has a room

Happy comes from hap, which is essentially luck. So happy can imply lucky or fortunate. If he gets to the hotel and finds he already is checked into his room in an otherwise full hotel, then he is indeed lucky and likely happy.

[-] EmoDuck@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

An infinite set doesn't necessarily contain every number. And the Grand Hilbert Hotel is known for having a strict policy against Tartarus convict's

[-] deranger@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago

Given an infinite number of rooms and guests, it is highly likely both he and the boulder are already there.

I don’t follow. He’s clearly not there already, being at the switch instead of at the hotel.

[-] kazren@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

But if there are infinite guests, could he not have a reservation?

[-] deranger@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 days ago

Have to ask all current infinite reservations to move to x 2, now you’ve got 2x the open rooms as all current infinite reservations are even rooms only.

[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

A hotel room being "full doesn't necessarily mean the guest is in the room at that very moment, just that the room us reserved. And given infinite rooms it's basically guaranteed one of those reservations is for sisyphus

[-] deranger@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Since the potential of not being accommodated is given, we must assume he doesn’t have a reservation.

[-] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

It's okay, he'll always have Bouldy there to lean into.

[-] piotrm@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

Everyone in the hotel shifts two rooms down. Sis and boulder take rooms 1 and 2, now empty, respectively.

[-] Wilzax@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

You have made infinite people unhappy by forcing them to change rooms. But Sisyphus is happy so who cares about the rest of them

[-] 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 1 day ago

but the room two rooms down is always occupied, for eternity. If you were to instruct everyone to pack their bags, exit in exactly 10 minutes and move two rooms up, you're always going to have people being late and not vacating the room, so you'll be dealing with people at reception complaining that they don't have a room, or that there's someone in their room. If you're telling people (or indeed boulders) to move into occupied rooms anyway, then just tell sis & boulder to move into the first two rooms without moving anyone. If you're not, then wait for someone to check out, as they'd have to wait for a nondeterminate length of time anyway.

[-] MadBob@feddit.nl 10 points 2 days ago

What part of "one must imagine Sisyphus happy" isn't clear? You've got to do it!

[-] MeatsOfRage@lemmy.world 48 points 2 days ago

Nah, you can always rely on the Hilbert Hotel for a good night's rest. Your room is down the hall, just keep walking, you'll find it.

[-] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 38 points 2 days ago

[-] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

This hallway will always feel like home to me

[-] HogsTooth@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago

All you gotta do is ask everyone to scoot down a room (or two, not sure if Sis and the boulder are looking to share a room) and you'll find there's plenty of room.

[-] lowleveldata@programming.dev 4 points 2 days ago

I won't have the heart to separate Sis and his lil boulder

[-] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Not pictured but relevant: the lever controls a mechanism which exposes a switch to a subatomic particle- the switch is triggered depending upon the state of the particle, and will release a poison into a sealed box containing a cat. Depending upon the status of the cat (alive or dead), Sisyphus’s boulder will be diverted.

[-] robdor@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 2 days ago

Irrelevant Sisyphus is always happy because he's always working out.

[-] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Thats fine. Give us all your source code then, asshole.

[-] son_named_bort@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Sisyphus would only be happy if he ends up on a game show where he can win a car if he picks which one of the three doors is correct. Sisyphus picks door number 1 and then the host reveals door number 3 as one of the doors that does not have the car. The host gives Sisyphus a chance to change his pick to door number 2. Does Sisyphus change his pick?

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Sisyphus could try to change his pick, but he could never get there. He could only change half his pick, then half his remaining pick, then half the remaining remaining pick, and so on until nearly all his pick is changed. It could never be entirely changed though. It also comes with free choice of topping.

[-] Bgugi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

He doesn't change his pick. He just divides his decision into an infinite field of points, moving half of them to door #2, allowing him to fully choose both doors.

[-] nicknonya@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

"yes because he's rolling it down a hill for once"

- someone on tumblr

[-] ArtificialLink@lemy.lol 5 points 2 days ago

I fucking love trolley memes

[-] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

Sorry, I just have to ask-

What in the fuck are you talking about?

[-] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Not op, no idea either. Best I can make of it is some sort of surrealist fifth level multi layered reference to several memes at once? The only one I know is the trolley problem one

[-] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 38 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The grand hilbert hotel is a metaphor about infinity. If a hotel has an infinite number of rooms, it will have enough room for him. If every room is full, they can all still move up by one room number. Infinity means you can always shift everyone up by 1 room number.

The ship of theseus is a philosophical question about whether it's still the same ship after having every board and nail in it replaced over centuries of repairs gradually replacing all of its parts.

Asking if Sisyphus is happy is a reference to a famous Albert Camus (French absurdist philosopher) quote "One must imagine Sisyphus happy"

[-] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Very interesting stuff, thank you!

Albeit the post seems a bit esoteric for lemmyshitpost without the extra context

[-] 5C5C5C@programming.dev 12 points 2 days ago

If we are now considering philosophical intellectual exercises to be memes then this description is accurate.

[-] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago

Well obviously it is a philosophical dilemma, but the dozens of ironic variations created for memes gave it a different purpose as meme template.

Otherwise it would be a lot less well known i would guess, under normal circumstances you encounter this perhaps once or twice during your education unless you actively take an interest in such musings. Due to the memes I probably come across the drawing once per week if not more

[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 days ago

I love how you call them memes. These are things philosophers talked about long before the word meme had its modern day meaning, even before it was coined in the first place. But in a way, yes, they are all memes

[-] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

I mean, I also acknowledged them as philosophical dilemmas in another comment, but I suppose it is my own fault for not clarifying that in the first.

[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 days ago

No, I wasn't ironic. It's not wrong to think of these dilemmas, paradoxes and ideas as memes. Memes are not only pictures

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Send him to the hotel and call ahead to ask the bellhop to ask the guests to all move to the room that's numbered twice the one they're currently staying in.

Nice hotel stays make most people at least happier, plus now half (minus one) of the rooms will have opened up for the evening!

[-] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

Happy doesn't even mean anything. Sisyphus has purpose, and that is enough.

[-] NotMVD@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 2 days ago

If Sisyphus wants destruction, then I think diverting it is the best. Even though the ship has no original parts, it is still a ship, even if it is a model of the original ship.

[-] CatZoomies@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Let’s cut all the philosophical crap and focus on what is most important here.

Would you still love me, now that I’m a worm?

[-] Hupf@feddit.de 3 points 2 days ago

I'm in for the infinite cruise ship of David Theseus.

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