Ive heard IRL people say its rigged because apparently mics will be turned off if it isn't their turn? Idk if thats true but I'm fully behind the idea personally lol.
The interruptions, while “entertaining”, should not exist in a debate so consequential. I feel like high school debate clubs have more decorum than any presidential debate in the last 16 years. Mic cuts are absolutely needed.
Idk. I was in a highschool debate club a bit over a decade ago, and I was very good at the public forum event. Like, regularly in the top 32 for both the NFL and CFL national tournaments good. There were other people at the top of that ladder with me that made very effective use of the "pound the table" strategy, and how well it worked often boiled down to judge variance. People act that way in debates because it absolutely works on some viewers
They seriously think debates are won by volume or persistence.
That is true and a common rule to prevent someone from just talking over everyone else. It doesn't mean they'll just get cut, at least not at this level. They'll finish their piece and then the mic is turned off while the other person is responding.
There are time limits in place too.
texas rep. Ronny Jackson is among those who have demanded that Biden take part in a drug test before and after Thursday's debate. Jackson, who served as Trump's White House physician and medical adviser... [said] "If President Biden needs to take performance enhancing drugs in order to participate in this week's debate, then it is imperative that he and his physician disclose that to the American people," Jackson said.
In that case, anything that you wanted to disclose to the American people there, Ronny? It's always just breathless, impotent projection...
I'm okay with both participants performing a drugs test.
Probably the only time I agree on a both sides argument. Hell, while we're at it, lets drug test the house and senate too.
Does anybody else find it a little sad that Ronny Jackson simps for Trump when Trump can't even remember his name when talking about him? Or did he just change his name to Ronny Johnson so that the god-king doesn't have to be wrong?
I mean, I would find it sad if I weren't completely out of sympathy for these Trump sycophants who let Trump talk shit about them publicly so that they can cling to power a little longer. Especially the shitheels who criticized Trump and now find themselves kissing the ring and bending the knee to get that VP nom.
Find it all sad, would be more sympathetic though if they weren't literally fascist psychopaths that want to burn down the world so that nobody can directly focus on the fact that they are bald, broke, gay and their father never told them, "I love you".
projection…
Hmm, so Trump needs before and after debate drugs? Of course amphetamines would be the classical far right choice, but then there's the whole opioid crisis thing going on... choices, choices...
Dumb framing. They aren't panicking, they're framing the results so they can fit them to their narrative no matter what happens. Biden wins = he was on drugs, no way senile and incapable Biden could win otherwise. Biden loses = full proof he's senile and incapable.
Why would they panic? They'll just play their usual pigeon chess: knocking the pieces over, crapping on the board, and flying off to announce that they have won.
They saw him during the State of the Union and it didn't match the clips and memes from their echo chamber that they live in.
They tried to blame drugs (pigeon chess) and no normal person has bought it. They don't have a plan B for when people actually hear him talk.
Ate out with the wife tonight, and got an unexpected political back-to-back: the restaurant had CNN playing on one end of my field of view, and Fox on the other.
CNN reported on all kinds of shit. Every time I looked up, different topic. They went back to the upcoming debate and the Gaza genocide a couple times, but otherwise just an even spread of unfolding events.
Fox spent most of the time talking about how left wing media will spin the debate to make Trump look like an extremist; and then a few small snips about how illegal immigrants are terrorizing our society and getting our youth hooked on fentanyl. They even managed to bitch about Hillary lol, although I missed the context... assuming they're still rambling about emails.
People who watch Fox must be terrified and angry like all the time lol.
People who watch Fox must be terrified and angry like all the time lol.
That's the point.
I completely missed the "with" in your first sentence and, wow, I had some thoughts and feelings which I am glad I didn't share without re-reading what you wrote first.
They need to give both as many and as much drugs as they want. If drugs will somehow make them coherent, make it a requirement. I honestly don’t see a downside. They can even advertise for the drugs and everyone still wins
You sound like the sort of person who would really enjoy the All Drug Olympics. :-)
So just the regular Olympics then?
So many exploding hearts.
On one hand I'm glad the media is reporting on this. On the other hand they seem to be signal boosting a lot of the messaging from the right
Same as it ever was
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"ChatGPT can you translate these emojis? Sure! The emojis can be translated as "Earth astronaut gun astronaut.""
That's helpful!
(It is the "always has been" meme with an astronaut looking at the Earth from space and a second astronaut pointing a gun at them behind their back.)
More projection, Trump is known to abuse Adderall.
Adderall, if you don't have ADHD, will act as a stimulant but does nothing to make you smarter or more coherent. It also does nothing for dementia that the Trump team wants everyone to believe Joe has, somehow without symptoms. Trump on the other hand has MANY symptoms of dementia, and appears to be declining quickly.
Pretending that a drug even exists that somehow Biden could take that would make him alert and dementia free for a debate (or State of the Union) just helps muddy the water around Trump's decline.
Both of these guys are ancient. I wouldn't care if any of them used drugs (as long as they don't pose long-term risks for their health) because they might as well be medication. Or are we going to be so dense that the idea that two 80 years olds are likely taking some medication is going to fly over our heads? Furthermore, where do we draw the line of what a "drug-enhancing drug" is? Coffee? Most adults take it to function under inhuman schedules. Adderall? If you do have ADHD, you do also need it to function; if you don't have it, it's going be even less useful than coffee. Anything else that they bought at a pharmacy? I don't care.
All in all, this looks like a talking point made up by people who want to treat politics like a sport, where we're supposed to watch "athletes" compete with equal opportunity for performance, which is definitely not what a presidential debate should be about.
Furthermore, where do we draw the line of what a "drug-enhancing drug" is?
I want drug-enhancing drugs
The typo will stay.
This is kind of obvious and I probably don't have to say it but..
Trump is doing this to weasel his way out of a debate he shouldn't have agreed to. No way in hell Trump subjects himself to the same drug test. He's betting on Biden not agreeing to it either so he can just say "well those liberals are obviously playing dirty so I'm out"
The drugs in question are necessarily irrelevant
You are definitely right that this is a manipulative move on Trump's part to make Biden look bad and get out if this debate.
But aren't most people in their 80's on a bunch of drugs anyway? Like blood pressure pills, cholesterol medicine, diuretics, arthritis medication etc? I'm not trying to stereotype older folks, but every person I've met over 60 seems to take a lot of pills.... that help them live and perform actions they couldn't otherwise.
Trump could take all the Adderall available in the world and he would still be a fucking moron.
If Trump is going to challenge Biden to a mental coherency test, why doesn't Biden challenge Trump to a bicycle race or a 2k run? After all, Trump has declared himself the healthiest President in history. (But a race like that would have good possibility of causing Trump a heart attack... which would of course be an unfortunate outcome).
Yes very unfortunate. Certainly nothing to wish, pray, or perform dark rituals for. Certainly not.
I really want to know the specific “performance enhancing drugs” these people think Biden is using. No hand-waving. Be explicit and tell everyone what magical drugs these are and then let’s test them both for these drugs.
Centrum Silver
I say, test both of them!
They should both be tested for drugs often, the working class is forced to undergo drug testing, why not the owner class as well, they are 'civil servants'; by multiple people and organizations, that would be fun to see differences in reports and writeups, even more if data is shown on what chemicals are in their system.
The claims arrive as Trump himself changes his tune on how well Biden may perform at the CNN debate. Having previously called Biden the "worst debater I have ever faced," Trump recently told the All-In Podcast that the president will be a "worthy debater" and that he does not want to "underestimate" Biden on Thursday.
"If President Biden needs to take performance enhancing drugs in order to participate in this week's debate, then it is imperative that he and his physician disclose that to the American people," Jackson said. "CNN's people leaked debate questions to Hillary Clinton in 2016," Grenell posted on X. Grenell was making reference to previous reports on how former chair of the Democratic National Committee Donna Brazile gave notice to Clinton's team about a debate question ahead of her 2016 debate with Trump.
"CNN's people leaked debate questions to Hillary Clinton in 2016," Grenell posted on X. Grenell was making reference to previous reports on how former chair of the Democratic National Committee Donna Brazile gave notice to Clinton's team about a debate question ahead of her 2016 debate with Trump.
Responding to the incident, Leavitt told Newsweek: "CNN cutting off my microphone for bringing up a debate moderator's history of anti-Trump lies just proves our point that President Trump will not be treated fairly in Thursday's debate.
Agreed that the position should be subject to drug testing. You have to be sober as a cat to pilot a commercial plane, but a speed junkie can have nukes? Insane.
“Sober as a cat” is a funny expression, because they’re the only type of pet I can think of that gets drugs (catnip) for fun.
I agree about presidential drug testing though.
What's the over under for tRump backing out?
I'm sure both sides are "panicking"
The great thing about a debate is that you don't even have to watch the damned things to know who won.
Your team did! Because your team is the best and always was!
Alternatively people like me need to suffer through them because the media spin is ridiculous on them. Not that it matters anyways, it's not like they're going to feel beholden to what they said.
I hope Biden points out the diapers and the smell.
I've said this before and I'll say it again: There are better things to attack Trump for than how he looks, what physical conditions he has or how he smells.
At face value, those sorts of things have little effect on the ability to run a country well.
Even his hair is a better target because how he wears it would appear to show vanity, a quality that might actually interfere with stable management. That's still a relatively big stretch without other evidence (of which there would appear to be plenty) though.
Attack his ideas, his intents, his politics. He makes this easy enough, right? Start there.
"LOL u smel" is something you expect in the playground. Something Trump himself might use, perhaps.
We have to be better than that.
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