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[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 75 points 5 months ago

They should’ve made it a video. I’m pretty sure the average DJT investor can’t read.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 68 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, because "not lending to short sellers" sure saved GameStop.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 66 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children)
  1. holding your DJT shares in a cash account at your brokerage firm instead of a margin account (a model instruction letter is set forth under the heading “Example Form of Letter to Broker” below); or
  2. opting out of any securities lending programs, which should stop your broker from lending your shares; or
  3. moving your shares to Odyssey Transfer and Trust Company, the Company’s transfer agent (please note that you may incur certain costs in connection with any such transfer and once your shares are moved to our transfer agent, your ability to timely transfer your shares back to a brokerage firm and sell may be a longer process); or
  4. transferring your shares to your bank (if they have custody services) and holding them in your retirement account (if permitted by your plan).

Bold of them to think their target audience can read this many words

[–] athos77@kbin.social 51 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Maybe I've just been conditioned to suspect Trump grift everywhere, but I suspect Odyssey has some kickback going to Trump.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 37 points 5 months ago

I also suspect that. I like how it says sales will be delayed, aka "you will be left holding the bag."

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Here's their team if anyone wants to do some digging-

https://odysseytrust.com/us/our-us-team/

[–] lechatron@lemmy.today 5 points 5 months ago

Holy airbrushed head shot! Caitlyn looks like she was generated by AI.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

Bold of them to think they have a brokerage firm.

[–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 12 points 5 months ago

Their marks are going to print out stock certificates and put them in a gun safe.

[–] elgordio@kbin.social 6 points 5 months ago

holding them in your retirement account

Hahahahaha. Not going to be much in the bag at that point.

[–] kromem@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

It's going to be rehashed into a dozen bitchute videos by dudes in Hawaiian shirts with dramatic hyperbole explaining it along with likely a side of misinformation and con artist profiteering.

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 62 points 5 months ago (3 children)

The whole idea of short selling is wild and feels like it should be illegal, so I'm totally OK with informing people how to prevent what they see of as an investment from getting loaned to people who are only trying to devalue that investment.

However, it is funny coming from a guy who has probably done more shortselling in the last hour than most people will do in their lifetimes. It's also scummy to recommend paying to use a holding company he probably owns or gets kickbacks from.

[–] Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 25 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The whole stock market is gambling, short selling is just the way to profit on the prediction of a price going down instead of up. Really short selling is one of the least sketchy things the stock market does, because at least it's public how it works.

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Right! 70-80% of trades on the stock market are bots trading with bots that learned to trade by watching historical trade data and trading with other bots, most on the order of milli or microseconds.

[–] Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago
[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The problem is not short selling, the problem are rich people manipulating the market in ways that should definitely be illegal.

How it's allowed to first short a stock and then release some "secret" (and often partly or complete bullshit) info is beyond me.

[–] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee -2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

See - Headline after headline about bits falling off "Boeing" planes, when they were sold by Boeing twenty years ago and badly maintained for the last ten

🤨

[–] Esqplorer@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What did Boeing promise the useful life of the planes to be?

[–] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee -4 points 5 months ago

Dunno but if I didn't service my car I wouldn't blame the manufacturer when bits start falling off it

[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

How does this have anything to do with short selling? Besides, parts are falling of and their own engineers are speaking out against Boeing. That's not to mention the multiple crashes that were 100% preventable, foreseeable and Boeings fault.

[–] Fal@yiffit.net 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Why do you think short selling should be illegal? It's just borrowing shares

[–] MeekerThanBeaker@lemmy.world 32 points 5 months ago (3 children)

The way the stock market should work is someone investing money in a company they believe in. If the company does well, then you can receive dividends and/or sell some later on to turn a profit.

But greedy people have turned it into a game, into gambling. People who do it for a living know all the tricks, have supercomputers, have knowledge of other people's investments to create algorithms.

Has almost nothing to do with the company itself. They contribute nothing to society. Borrowing shares to short a stock is just an extension of that. You can make a lot more money that way, but again... it's gambling, not an investment in a company.

[–] Fal@yiffit.net 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Most of what you're saying isn't really a problem that affects anyone. You can still buy shares and collect dividends. How many shares short, or how often someone buys and sells a stock has 0 bearing on that. In fact all of that actually creates the liquidity that lets you buy fractional shares instead of having to buy in 100 share lots like you use to.

And short sellers are actually pretty important to the markets. They keep companies honest by having an incentive to investigate and publicize frauds and overvalued companies. People put way too much weight in how much impact shorting has, or people trading derivatives

[–] MeekerThanBeaker@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I appreciate your thoughts. I admit I'm not too involved in shorts and there are bigger issues with the market than that. I just prefer that people wouldn't bet against a company simply to earn money. It's not going to change anytime soon, if ever. I just would prefer that stocks for sale were to invest in a company to help it grow, and not... I think this company is gonna crash... let me make money on that prediction.

[–] Fal@yiffit.net 3 points 5 months ago

I just would prefer that stocks for sale were to invest in a company to help it grow,

Buying stock on the market has no impact on helping it grow. The only money that goes from investors to the company are from the IPO or any additional share sales, which aren't common.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

30 day minimum hold period on any share purchases.

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Short selling helps prevent stock market bubbles by correcting overpriced stocks, ensuring prices reflect real value. It also allows investors to hedge against potential losses in their portfolio, making the market more stable and efficient.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 1 points 5 months ago

That's what stockbrokers say, sure. They don't actually care, they're brokers. They make money from the sale regardless, and the more kind of sales and services they can make and charge for, the better off they are.

Especially when it helps create a labyrinth of industry specific terms and rules they know and you don't.

That's why they were laughing at the GME bullshit, like Redditors thought they were the ones losing money. Every little retail trade had a percentage that went into their pockets.

[–] PorradaVFR@lemmy.world 38 points 5 months ago (1 children)

But…but….but…the market will self regulate?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 28 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They don't like the invisible hand when it starts slapping them around.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 8 points 5 months ago

This ain't no regular slap.

This be a Bernie Mack Pimp Slap Extraordinaire

[–] 3volver@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago

Just spend some time reading about naked shorting, then you'll begin to understand why the stock market is the way it is.

[–] assembly@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I can’t believe the stock is actually going up in price. Seems like lunacy. It made sense that for the past month it’s been dropping but a bounce like this is making me doubt the nature of my reality.

[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 21 points 5 months ago

Cause the numbers aren't real, just like Tesla. Inflated due to the leaders' cult (and in this case possible "actors")not for any business reason.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

Short cover rally.

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"If something sounds too good to be true, it probably is"

Time will tell. Everything sounds far too good to be true, considering that the social media platform is tiny and hemorrhaging money.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago

I feel like it will always have some weird intrinsic value as a potential in group until the election. If DJT pulls off a successful presidential win, then people who hold his stock may think they are less likely to be purged

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

lol idiots.

[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago

His business prowess is truly remarkable.