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[-] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 154 points 4 months ago

First, squatters of this type are taking advantage of laws intended to protect renters from predatory landlords. Wherever you stand on people appropriating unused property, these laws need to stay in place even if they’re made more specific.

Second, news outlets like this will always quote a “guns and drugs” case and not the mom with three kids seeking employment or homeless vet cases.

Third, with security cams and doorbells being so cheap, there’s no reason why this should be an issue, especially for a large real estate rental company. That alone puts me in “cry me a river” mode. Notice again that the article lists interviews with individual homeowners but is actually profiling the impact on a rental company.

[-] kalkulat@lemmy.world 48 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

IMO owning an unoccupied house thats off-market, or prohibitively-priced is probably a gambling chip.

IF there are ANY families in the same county that are homeless, it should begin being taxed as a gambling-chip. Sell-it very soon or it may used for a free shelter for however it remains unoccupied by the owner.

[-] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 months ago

I have no issues with raising property taxes on non-owner occupied housing, and having them even higher on unoccupied housing.

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 35 points 4 months ago

Hell, the basic idea behind squatter's laws is that the squatter is actually doing something with the land instead of a derilect landlord.

If a bank isn't immediately selling the foreclosed home, they should lose it.

[-] dave@feddit.uk 10 points 4 months ago

All good points—did you mean “tiny violin mode”, or have I been misunderstanding that song for a long time?

[-] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 23 points 4 months ago

No, they mean the same thing, at least in my familiarity with the phrases. “Cry me a river” means that I don’t care to hear about their complaints, even if their tears were enough to fill a river, because I think they’re not legitimate.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago

“Cry me a river, build a bridge, and get over it.” Is a favorite expression.

[-] waz@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

I always liked the similar variation: "Cry me a river, build a bridge and jump off it."

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[-] SleepingTower@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Could be both: "I will now play 'Cry me a river' on the world's tiniest violin."

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[-] eldoom@lemmy.ml 95 points 4 months ago

When I was homeless and super desperate for a roof over my head I'd pull up some real estate app and filter by foreclosures. They were always empty and I never got bothered by anyone. Do gotta be super sneaky in case there's neighbors or something but there was almost always a window unlocked or something.

[-] reagansrottencorpse@lemmy.world 48 points 4 months ago

Put this tip in my back pocket, homelessness can happen to any of us.

[-] Stamets@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago

Note: This doesn't work in Toronto where the police are aggressively pro NIMBY and just pieces of inhuman filth anyway.

Source: Experience.

[-] Sabin10@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

The only time Toronto police will do their job is if it wiil cause extreme suffering.

[-] eldoom@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 months ago

Old homeless secret I guess. When you're in a decently suburban area there's always at least one close by.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 4 months ago

Good to know!

[-] Bonehead@kbin.social 94 points 4 months ago

Holmes told Channel 2 consumer investigator Justin Gray that he used his life savings to buy a DeKalb County home out of foreclosure eight months ago as a rental property.

Aaaaaaand there goes all my sympathy...

[-] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 57 points 4 months ago

But he just wanted to find someone else to make all the payments for him and eventually provide a passive income. These damn squatters are just trying to get something for free.

(Corporate wants you to find the differences in these photos...)

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 4 months ago
[-] kautau@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

Capitalism is ~~weird~~ broken

FTFY

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[-] kakes@sh.itjust.works 66 points 4 months ago

I don't know much about American laws, and I strongly believe that basic housing should not be for-profit.

With those caveats, if a house is empty for such a long time that squatters can claim it (7-20 years according to Google), then I think it's not only okay to claim residence there, I think it's the morally correct thing to do.

Obviously, there are exceptions to anything, but generally speaking, it sounds like society could use more of this.

[-] moody@lemmings.world 13 points 4 months ago

The 7-20 years you're seeing is probably for adverse posession, which is a step above squatter's rights. If you can show that you've been maintaining the property for that entire time without the landowner stopping you from being there, in some cases you can gain ownership of the property through adverse possession.

Squatter's rights is more about the right to remain where you are as opposed to owning the place. Typically being given similar rights to a tenant.

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[-] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 4 months ago

You googled the wrong thing. You wanna squat, have your mail sent to an empty place, move in. Tell the cops you live there if they show up. Then you can't be touched. The real owner files and pays to have you served eviction papers saying you have to leave in 30 days. Then if still there, it has to go through Court system that the homeowner once again has to file for and can take several more months.

It's an abuse of Tennant protection laws.

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[-] notannpc@lemmy.world 63 points 4 months ago

You know who probably won’t have a problem with squatters? People who buy houses to live in them.

Hard to feel bad for a fucking landlord. Get a real job loser.

[-] invertedspear@lemm.ee 38 points 4 months ago

Little more sympathy to the lady that got squatted on while she was on active duty though.

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[-] kalkulat@lemmy.world 45 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It's my opinion that housing is so basic a need that no house should be allowed to use for a gambling chip.

The 'housing market' needs to be broken in favor of individual ownership. (For many, speculation has driven ownership out of reach.)

Only individuals may purchase individual homes, and must agree to occupy them as their primary and only residences until they sell and vacate them. (Live-in landlords included, e.g. boarders.)

As part of the deal, they must first find another individual buyer (under the same terms) for their present home.

(Futher stipluations needed, but none that permit violation of the above principle. )

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[-] Chocrates@lemmy.world 34 points 4 months ago

I felt bad for the dude until I got to the part that it was a rental property.

Not all landlords are scum but enough of them are that everyone in the business is tainted.

Living indoors should be a human right. Charging for shelter should be illegal, same for food and water...

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[-] athos77@kbin.social 18 points 4 months ago

Gray sent this story to Instagram after it aired and they removed the account for violating the app’s terms of service.

Well, thank goodness making a second account is so hard ...

[-] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 months ago

I'm mostly confused as to why an instagram account is in any way relevant to squatters.

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[-] BlackNo1@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

oh noooo people getting a roof over their head boo hoo

[-] invertedspear@lemm.ee 7 points 4 months ago

Kind of a problem when someone comes back from active duty and has someone dealing drugs and guns out of their house though.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

They aren't playing by the rules so why should we? Buy houses with their family money and sit on them then campaign for stricter zoning laws to keep out competition.

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[-] Hegar@kbin.social 8 points 4 months ago

"This is stealing and needs to be looked at that way,” said a property owner

😂

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