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Joe Biden wins primary election in New Hampshire despite not even being on the ballot (www.businessinsider.com)

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[–] j_roby@slrpnk.net 314 points 5 months ago (4 children)

The push to write in Biden on the ballot didn't go completely smoothly. The weekend before New Hampshire's primary, thousands of voters in the state received robocalls that used deep faked audio of the president in an attempt to dissuade them from turning out.

Whatever your thoughts on electoral politics are, this shit right here is such a terrifying prospect for the future...

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 110 points 5 months ago (2 children)

No one is taking credit, but we all know which party they're part of. Where is Roger Stone?

[–] iyaerP@lemmy.world 81 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Not where he should be: prison.

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

His head should be adorning a spike atop a parapet somewhere.

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[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 46 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

That’s the fucked up part: they’ll be decried as ”lone wolves”, and, as such, no care will be given in investigation nor pursuit. Each and every time. Nor to the aggregate effect of the countless “love wolves” who are never pursued, nor the fascist, terrorist packs they will obviously, inevitably form because they were ignored, alone, fed a diet of Trump and YouTube, and Alex jones, and Xitter…

But that’s the point.

[–] donuts@kbin.social 41 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I'm not sure if AI is going to revolutionize anything good, but it's certainly going to revolutionize election interference.

[–] ech@lemm.ee 29 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That, misinformation/propaganda, scam calls, etc. Shits gonna get wild real quick here soon, and I don't think we as a species are remotely prepared for it.

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[–] xor@infosec.pub 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

luckily deep fake audio still sounds fake...
however, im pretty sure this is real
https://youtu.be/ZiQRF5h3zDQ?si=4M0sYy8on2GnXFVm

[–] NocturnalEngineer@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Even if it didn't sound fake, you'd think common sense would preveil. Why would the president robo call you telling them not to vote for them.

[–] Altofaltception@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago (3 children)

My favourite quote attributed to Winston Churchill that he never said is:

The best argument against Democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

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[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 91 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

Why isn't th federal government making a bigger deal out of the fact that an official political candidate was used in a deep fake ad saying non consensual words for political interference

Why haven't these people been charged? Or at least found?? This was a litmus test for more deepfakes of joe during the main election...and they got the approval

Does this mean that liberals can do the same thing with DJT?

[–] FabledAepitaph@lemmy.world 75 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Tbh, I'm not sure what liberals could deepfake Trump that would be worse than what he actually says haha

[–] laughterlaughter@lemmy.world 42 points 5 months ago (3 children)

You're not thinking deeper enough. Imagine a deep-faked Trump saying "Actually, I like Mexicans. It was all a joke. Borders open for everyone! And to all of you who gave me money, thank you haha suckers!! I endorse Joe Biden."

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago (6 children)

His voters literally don't care what he says.

Trump is the President that signed an executive order restricting firearms, but it's apparently Obama and Biden that are coming after our guns.

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[–] centof@lemm.ee 70 points 5 months ago (12 children)

Dean Phillips got right around 20% even with the fact that Biden did a write in. I'm honestly kinda surprised it's that low. I would have expected there to be more than that considering the write-in.

Not that it matters since the DNC took away New Hampshire's say in the matter by nullifying their delegates. It is kinda horrifying that a private organization (the DNC) can just decide who has a say in choosing which candidates of the 2 we get to choose between.

[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 37 points 5 months ago (3 children)

DNC doesn't need to even have primaries. The political parties aren't public organizations. If another candidate was more popular, they foundy still win.

Besides, NH could have had a primary if they obeyed the rules. But they wanted to stay super special important so they were disqualified.

[–] centof@lemm.ee 28 points 5 months ago (12 children)

NH literally had to break either their own state law to move the primary, or break DNC's rules to have a primary that counted. And their republican state legislature would not allow them to move the primary. So they literally had no choice in the matter.

How is it in any way fair that 2 private organizations get to decide if the American people even get a say in the 2 (realistic) choices they have?

P.S. I'm assuming you mean might where you put 'foundy'. I don't know how that got there but I'm guessing a phone keyboard.

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[–] grozzle@lemm.ee 24 points 5 months ago

the USA isn't really supposed to have political parties like you do now.

Washington and other "founding fathers" argued against a party system, and there are no references to parties in the Constitution or other original documents mandating how elections are conducted.

[–] Microw@lemm.ee 22 points 5 months ago

The reality is that in any other country a private organization (=a party committee) decides who is the candidate for their party, and therefore who the public can vote for

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[–] Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 51 points 5 months ago (7 children)

WTF is this part supposed to mean?

wasn't on the ballot, it was still chock-full of candidates like the boot-on-head-wearing Vermin Supreme, Rep. Dean Phillip, and Marianne Williamson

Are they calling Dean Phillip a vermin supreme or did someone named Vermin Supreme actually get on the ballot?

[–] Kovukono@pawb.social 109 points 5 months ago

Vermin Supreme is a real person.

[–] Maven@lemmy.world 84 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You're one of today's lucky 10,000!

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[–] jak@sopuli.xyz 43 points 5 months ago

I’m so excited that you get to learn about vermin supreme

[–] HejMedDig@feddit.dk 40 points 5 months ago

Vermin Supreme have been in quite a few elections

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 29 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There's a comma.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

Vermin Supreme is a person who literally wears a boot on his head and is in politics. I don't know what his platform his, but I'm pretty sure I don't want to vote for him.

[–] thecrotch@sh.itjust.works 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Free ponies for every American. I'm not kidding, that's his platform. He won me over.

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[–] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

There's a guy who calls himself Vermin Supreme. He wears a boot on his head and iirc claims to be a libertarian. He runs for president every year and never comes even close to winning anywhere.

Edit: meant to say he runs for president every election. He obviously couldn't run every year.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 22 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (10 children)

That's really impressive and pretty encouraging.

I read too much b******* online, so knowing that he doesn't even have to be on the ballot and can still win a primary is a wowser for me.

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[–] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I confess, I'm ootl here. Why was he not on the ballot?!

[–] Hoagie@lemmy.ca 26 points 5 months ago

Essentially, the DNC decided to shake up the primary season by shuffling the traditional order of primaries, and had South Carolina as the first primary in February. New Hampshire has a state law requiring them to be the first primary, so they could either break state law or defy the DNC. (Keep in mind that parties are technically private organizations, so I don't know how state law can force them to do that, but American elections are weird, and I'm Canadian.) The Republican-controlled NH government decided on defying the DNC, so although they technically held a primary, it was not sanctioned or authorized, and thus the DNC disallows contenders from appearing on the ballot, which Biden complied with. I believe the DNC has also invalidated the electors as a result, so they might not even count them at the convention.

TDLR; DNC changes primary schedule, Republican NH says "by law we go first", DNC declares NH primary unsanctioned and tells candidates to stay off the ballot.

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[–] lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Dark Brandon wins 100% of the elections he doesn't run in. Fodder for the next ridiculous right-wing conspiracy theory, or a tasteful homage to the antique Chuck Norris memes of yesteryear.

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