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[-] danielbln@lemmy.world 73 points 10 months ago

I think burkinis are dumb, personally, but I don't give a damn what people wear. This is just typical ingroup-outgroup postering fueled by a proto fascist government, standard stuff really. Also, hygiene? Bro, it's the ocean, a layer of clothing extra ain't gonna make a difference.

[-] starlinguk@kbin.social 31 points 10 months ago

Burkinis are great for anyone wanting to protect their skin without reapplying SPF 50 every 2 hours.

[-] livus@kbin.social 9 points 10 months ago

Exactly, they are really practical and they allow more people to enjoy the beach.

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[-] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

How many men are wearing them?

[-] livus@kbin.social 20 points 10 months ago

Well, the hole in the ozone is getting worse again so as someone who lives near it, I'm looking at burkinis/rash shirts for the coming summer.

I don't want skin cancer.

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[-] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 19 points 10 months ago

They look like derpy wet suits. Although some are definitely worse looking than others.
Hygiene is indeed a weird argument when you swim in a giant fish toilet.

[-] livus@kbin.social 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The hygiene part made me laugh, given the photo. That beach is full of children most likely peeing in the water and there's a container ship in the distance, discharging god knows what into the sea.

Someone whose swimsuit has a bit more material in it is not a threat.

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[-] Ataraxia@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

I just stay out of the sun. As an ignorant Italian in my youth I already caused who knows how much damage being taken to the beach by my parents all the time. I will cover up and wear a very large brimmed hat but mostly just stay indoors. Fuck cancer.

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[-] livus@kbin.social 54 points 10 months ago

"How dare muslims tell women what to wear, we want to be the ones who tell them what to wear."

[-] Fazoo@lemmy.ml 10 points 10 months ago

Pretty much my thoughts. Who the hell is gate keeping a public beach? Europeans are whacked out. Banning burkinis was beyond moronic, and now this?

[-] livus@kbin.social 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I don't think this is about "Europeans" so much as it's about ignorance.

Europeans actually working in the space of migrant women's human rights have pointed out that mainstream society imposing restrictions on their clothes just makes it harder for them to participate in social spaces and be part of the wider society.

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[-] dan1101@lemm.ee 21 points 10 months ago

This is just prejudice mixed with ridiculousness. Yes covering head to toe seems weird based on western culture. But it doesn't hurt anything at all, there are certainly no hygiene issues. Do these people know what's in the ocean? Everything, that's what, you name it, it's in there. A bit of cloth isn't going to affect the ocean .00000000000001%.

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[-] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 20 points 10 months ago

Funny. Normally right-wingers are trying to force women to wear more clothing. These same knuckle draggers were no doubt beside themselves in outrage when the bikini was first invented.

[-] emptyother@programming.dev 11 points 10 months ago

When did beachwear rules become more than "if you are of age, cover your private parts (unless its a nudist beach)"? What the age is and what "private parts" mean changes from culture to culture, of course.

[-] honeynut@lemm.ee 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

chauvinist wojack: they don't know they're being oppressed

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 9 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The right-wing mayor of the small town of Monfalcone in Friuli-Venezia Giulia wrote a letter to the Muslim community saying the territory shouldn’t accept the “Islamization” of their customs and to respect the region’s rules on beachwear.

The Italian constitution guarantees full freedom to its citizens but several governments, largely in the north of the country, have attempted to ban various types of head coverings over the years.

In 2006, the Regional Administrative Tribunal of Friuli-Venezia Giulia ruled that the mayor of Trieste could not ban head coverings for security reasons under the 152/1975 because it violated people’s religious freedoms.

The 152/1975 anti-terrorism law states that people cannot wear masks or motorcycle helmets in public to evade identification.

This law has been cited multiple times as cause for banning religious head and face coverings in the northern regions of Friuli-Venezia Giulia and Lombardy, whose regional and local governments have historically been controlled by either the right-wing Forza Italia party or the far-right Lega party.

In 2021, the European Court of Justice ruled that people who work with the public who refuse to remove their hijab or other religious or ideological clothing could be fired from their job in order to present a “neutral image towards customers or to prevent social disputes.”


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[-] Imp3riaLL@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Hey guys, hey, guys, guys hey.

Maybe, hear me out guys.

Maybe we should, guys, maybe we should stop fighting amongst ourselves and all turn our hatred and frustrations to the ones actually making our lives harder?

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