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[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 255 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Here is the key sentence in the article.

...an acceleration in the long-term decline of so-called domestic-premium brands, which include Bud Light and rivals Miller Light and Coors Light...

So, are people drinking less beer or are they drinking less piss beer? Could it be that people are having two Hazy Imperial IPA's with 8+ ABV instead of a six pack of Coors Light? I am taking this headline with a grain of salt.

EDIT: I found my glasses.

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 92 points 6 months ago

Who the hell thinks those three are premium?

[-] Pissnpink@feddit.uk 45 points 6 months ago

If that's premium what isn't premium? Steel reserve? That's just malt Coors with different marketing. Micky's? That's just malt Miller with different marketing. 10 barrel? That bud light wearing 2010's hipster clothes.

I think we're giving these brand too much credit with the word premium.

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[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago
[-] wolfpack86@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

People who drink keystone, busch, and natty

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[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 34 points 6 months ago

Article has a vague accusation that soda-based drinks are to blame without covering any of the other possibilities here

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[-] comador@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago

I'm more of a once a week Porter, Ale and Hard Cider drinker, but it's still a Microbrew.

Grain a salt is right: People just don't like the taste of that crap anymore, not with so many options on the market now.

Coors/Bud/MGD/Corona? I haven't had one in years.

[-] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

A Four Noses or Cerebrus Hazy is so much better than the domestic swill it’s not funny. We have so many more options these days that I’m glad it’s hurting the big guys. They’ve been making crap pilsners for decades.

[-] ThePantser@lemmy.world 157 points 6 months ago

I'm sure the weed legalizing has had an impact as well. I have completely stopped drinking in favor of weed. Saves my liver and no hangover.

[-] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 24 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I think that many people are switching to hard liquor because of the state of things, as well. My town alone has seen like a 7-800% increase in alcohol sales since covid.

[-] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 22 points 6 months ago

Can confirm, gave up crappy low cal water beer for vodka. Less carbs, better buzz.

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[-] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 71 points 6 months ago

Stop making so many mediocre IPAs. Other styles do exist.

[-] MirthfulAlembic@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago

It's insane. I swear that some liquor stores I go to have a craft beer section that's 90% IPAs... and another 5% that are basically IPAs with cutesy names like "Super Duper Pale Ale."

[-] Buffaloaf@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago

IPAs are the easiest to make, that's why every small brewery makes one

[-] Skankboot@sh.itjust.works 16 points 6 months ago

The problem is they're mediocre

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[-] flames5123@lemmy.world 63 points 6 months ago

beer shipments

That’s the problem. A lot of people are living in and around cities now. We buy beer at the brewery. Do these figures include 1st party sells? Distributors have always been a necessary evil and many states have laws saying you must go through a distributor for selling elsewhere, but many breweries are just doing taprooms now to not have to deal with that. I’d like to see those stats if they exist.

I do understand that many people are buying seltzers now, myself included.

[-] commandar@lemmy.world 49 points 6 months ago

It also doesn't help that the craft beer scene turned into a competition to push the most over the top bitter IPAs possible. A lot of the appeal of craft beer went away for me when 3/4 of the taps became unremarkable IPAs. A good IPA is wonderful, but the vast majority of what you run into isn't that.

It's only marginally more interesting than when the landscape was dominated by lagers.

[-] flames5123@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago

Hops are really awesome when used correctly, but many breweries just toss in hops to cover up bad bases. I’m lucky to have a few breweries around me that make really goods stouts and sours.

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[-] Tujio@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago

At least around me that has improved. Ten years ago it was just a dick-measuring contest about who could make the bitterest beer. Once you hit 90+ IBUs you're not even pretending to make something good.

Since then, craft breweries here have course corrected. Most of them here are focusing on making a well- balanced IPA as their flagship, then experimenting with sours, stouts and saisons.

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[-] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 55 points 6 months ago

It might have something to do with weed being easier to get. Where I live it's easier and faster to get weed than it is to get beer, especially on sunday.

[-] MDKAOD@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 months ago

Alcohol is expensive and makes you feel like shit. Who does that to themselves by choice when there's alternatives?

[-] hansl@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

It only makes you feel like shit if you want to get wasted irresponsibly. I like beer and outside of some college benders I’ve never felt like shit after. Stay hydrated folks.

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[-] Landmammals@lemmy.world 51 points 6 months ago

A 4 pack is $12. I'm just going to get a bottle of whisky instead.

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[-] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 44 points 6 months ago

No beer for me, just drugs please.

[-] aceshigh@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago

I just want weed. I didn’t even think of buying alcohol for new years, but I did purchase a screen for my pipe.

[-] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

You son of a bitch, I'm in.

[-] archchan@lemmy.ml 41 points 6 months ago

Meanwhile my drinking has hit personal record highs this year. Yay depression.

[-] Jeremyward@lemmy.world 23 points 6 months ago

18 days sober today for me! You can do it friend.

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[-] Pickle_Jr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 6 months ago

I also wonder how liquor sales are as well.

My wife and I are obviously only one couple, so this is confirmation bias, but alcohol in general just isn't as appealing anymore. With all this general stress we've been going through (struggling with inflation, insane work hours, insane work conditions) alcohol is causing more migraines, sucky morning-after-drinking symptoms, high calories, expensive prices, there's just no good reason to drink as much as we used to. And it's not like we drank that much earlier in our lives as well.

Tie this all together with marijuana availability which has none of these cons except for high taxes, then alcohol doesn't sound as appealing anymore.

[-] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

I also wonder how liquor sales are as well.

Up a staggering amount. The US is in the throes of an alcohol-abuse epidemic.

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[-] FrankTheHealer@lemmy.world 36 points 6 months ago

Because it's expensive, calorie intensive and takes longer to drink than something like whiskey or vodka.

If I'm thirsty, I'll drink water. If I want to get drunk, I'll drink whiskey. Beer is the middle ground that just isn't worth it anymore.

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

There are some that taste good. But it's only every once in awhile for me.

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[-] krakenx@lemmy.world 35 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The beer fests near me are filled with selzers, ciders and stuff like mead. As someone who doesn't like beer, I think it's a positive change to have alternatives for different tastes.

[-] Prethoryn@lemmy.world 23 points 6 months ago

I think beer is gross, personally, so this isn't a post about me but reading the comments it is interesting to see beer drinkers here decide against it due to cost and wanting other choices. I have news for you guys there are cocktails and other great alcohols that cost as much as your 7 to 10 dollar beer and they taste fucking great.

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[-] robocall@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago

I don't like alcohol. I like fried food and obesity is certainly on the rise in America.

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[-] chitak166@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago

No joke, it's all the seltzer marketing that gets people to spend way more on way less alcohol.

It was successful as fuck. Just look at all the streamers shilling it.

[-] papalonian@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

How is it spending way more on way less alcohol? In my area a 12 pack of Trulys is comparable to a 12 pack of Corona and they have roughly the same alcohol content

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[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 19 points 6 months ago

Yet even as overall volume consumption declined, the largest beer makers remain financially resilient thanks to prices that climbed alongside — or even surpassed — broader inflation, Steinman said. Beer drinkers also continued to shift toward more expensive beer brands, especially imports like Modelo Especial, which became the No. 1 beer in America in 2023.

So people aren't willing to pay higher prices for worse product.

[-] Skankboot@sh.itjust.works 14 points 6 months ago

I drink IPAz when I only want to have 2 drinks instead of 10.

Turns out, that's most of the time

[-] joystickslave@lemmyhub.com 14 points 6 months ago

We're much more health conscious these days. We've seen how alcohol can wreck your health and quality of life. There are more and more people that don't drink alcohol at all. And so on.

[-] piecat@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

No we're not

We've replaced drinking and snacking with smoking and snacking

Your liver can grow back and repair itself from moderate damage. Lungs cannot.

And I say that as someone who uses both.

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[-] PanArab@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

Is this trend only the US? Would be interesting to see how it is in other countries and how it correlates to economic and social indcators

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[-] paddirn@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

More expensive, but also just all around bad for the body. Just really not worth it.

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