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When films are adapted from books, more often than not, I tend to find the books a lot more enjoyable. So I have skipped watching a lot of films in the hope of reading the books later.

So what are some great films not adapted from books? Or what are some films that are significantly better than the book they were adapted from?

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[–] InisSieferI@kbin.social 31 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Christopher Nolan has done some good big movies not based on existing book or IP: Memento, Inception, Interstellar, and Tenet.

[–] InLikeClint@kbin.social 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Interstellar is in my top 5 favorite movies. Fuckin' blew my mind the first time I saw it.

[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

It's the music and sound design. F'n masterpiece.

[–] theragu40@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

It's maybe the best theater movie I've ever seen.

It's just completely overwhelming in that setting.

[–] Nioxic@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

But... op asked for "good" movies.

Tenet is terrible.

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[–] aleph@lemm.ee 26 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Anything by Martin McDonagh, especially

  • In Bruges
  • Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri
  • The Banshees of Inisherin
[–] aleph@lemm.ee 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Also, just thought of some others that aren't based on books but have quite a literary feel:

  • Tár
  • The VVitch
  • There Will Be Blood
[–] Indie59@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There Will Be Blood is loosely based on Upton Sinclair’s “Oil”

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[–] theragu40@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)
  • Pulp Fiction
  • Donnie Darko
  • The Big Lebowski
  • The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou
  • In Bruges
  • The Matrix
  • Monty Python and the Holy Grail
  • Ocean's Eleven
  • Indiana Jones original trilogy
  • Get Out
  • Bladerunner (a book, apparently)
  • Bladerunner 2049
  • 28 Days Later
  • American Beauty
  • The Usual Suspects
  • Gladiator
  • Schindler's List (also a book??)
  • Saving Private Ryan
  • There Will Be Blood (dammit, a book!)
[–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Gonna get pedantic here:

Blade Runner is based on "Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep" by Philip K Dick.
There Will Be Blood is based on "Oil" by Sinclair Lewis.
Both were acclaimed in their own right before the film adaptations.

Okey dokey then... carry on!

[–] theragu40@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] JoeyJoJoJuniour@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago

Also Schindlers List was a book first

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 14 points 11 months ago

2001 Space Odyssey might be an interesting candidate here, just because of the way in which the book and film were more or less born together and diverged in their own separate ways, though the genesis of the whole thing was apparently in a short story by AC Clark that I know nothing about.

[–] freamon@endlesstalk.org 13 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Star Wars is interesting in that it's a big franchise IP that isn't an adaption of a book or comic

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Yea, in the case of Star Wars, there's a lot of borrowing from old ideas and mythological forms as well as the samurai and western genres that I'm not sure it entirely counts ... it probably sits in its own little category of sort of fairy tale literature brought to film, which is an achievement in its own right.

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Directly stole characters from samurai films too. 2 characters in Hidden Fortress act exactly like R2 and C3PO

I’m sure there are other examples

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

The spear fight in HF was really cool.

[–] TheRaven@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago

As an influence ... for sure!

[–] Terevos@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Almost all 'new' ideas borrow from old ideas. If we don't count Star Wars, then there's nothing we can count.

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[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Adopted from a couple older movies, like Kurosawa’s hidden fortress, among others

[–] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It was a heavily influenced film, though: Flash Gordon + Hidden Fortress + dogfighting reel with a dash of The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly.

[–] freamon@endlesstalk.org 2 points 11 months ago

I'm vaguely aware of those influences, but decided to answer OP's question very literally (there's no 'New Hope' book that anyone can check out after seeing the first film)

[–] quinnly@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago

Fargo. Even the "true story" that it's based on never happened.

[–] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Forrest Gump is apparently better than the book. I haven’t read it but the people who did unanimously agree that the protagonist in the book is too much of an asshole.

[–] sanguinepar@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Great films not adapted from books - most of David Lynch's work would count here: Mulholland Drive, Eraserhead, Blue Velvet, Lost Highway, Inland Empire, and Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me (though that's a prequel to the TV show, obviously)

[–] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari

King Kong

Little Miss Sunshine

The Raid 1 & 2

Beetlejuice

The Goonies

E.T.

American History X

Frankenstein and Bride of Frankenstein are very loosely based on the original story (ostensibly Mary Shelley’s verbal retelling of the story before she penned the novel) and both are good in their own right.

[–] Naminreb@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago

Reservoir Dogs

[–] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Free Guy, just for being the first original IP in I don't even know how long

[–] PerCarita@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago

I was truly, genuinely, surprised at how much I enjoyed the philosophy of Free Guy. At first, I thought it was just a feel-good movie, popcorn flick, but I was happy to be able to go to the cinema during Covid, middling, middling, middling, and, lo, by the end the movie had completely won me over. IT IS ABOUT HOW WE FEEL ABOUT OUR LIVES, regardless of our place in the cosmos.

I wished it had gone deeper into the ethics of creating conscious AIs, but that would have been too much to ask for that kind of movie. That same year I watched Dune in the cinema, and I kind of like them both. Almost equally, but in different ways. About 6 months later, I went back for The Matrix Resurrections and was sorely disappointed. Free Guy should have been The Matrix 4.

[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (3 children)
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[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Memento. Technically was an unpublished short story rewriten for the screen.

Some Wes Anderson stuff: isle of Dogs, Grand Budapest Hotel (loose influence), Royal Taenbaums

M (1933)

Short Term 12

Shawshank is based on a short story too

Interrogation (1989)

Funny Gaes (1997 version!!!)

A lot of Powell and Pressbruger’s stuff… Red Shoes, Colonel Blimp

Coen bros stuff-Fargo (strongly recommend this), O Brother Where Art Thou (inspired by Homer, but a bit different from the book lol), Big Lebowski

Just a few to start you with. I basically pulled some fine examples across cinema history. I ignored a lot of great silent stuff, especially the comedy. If you reply to this one day, I’m sure I can follow up with more refs!

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 4 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Star Wars.

IDK why I sometimes hear that Lucas derived the movies from some old book series; that's bullshit. All the books came after the movies.

[–] quinnly@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think Star Wars is a great example of an original film that's endlessly familiar. It took so many old fantasy tropes, western tropes, war movie tropes, a hefty dose of Kurosawa, and made something that almost anyone can relate to while still being completely alien.

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[–] wilberfan@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

BOOGIE NIGHTS. An original screenplay, although inspired by some real people and incidents.

[–] dimspace@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Or what are some films that are significantly better than the book they were adapted

One of my favourite books, High Fidelity. I think I am in the age range and demo it was written for, so much rings true. When I heard there was a film coming out I was so excited, and then I read it was being moved from London and re-set in Chicago, and my heart sank.

Boy was I wrong. John Cusack was great, Todd Louiso was histerical, and it was Jack Black's breakout performance. (I honestly am not sure he has been funnier since)

And the Chicago setting 100% worked, better than London would have

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 3 points 11 months ago

I might say Spirited Away is a good example. I don't know how many Ghibli films are based on books if at all, but that one in particular fits the bill.

On a similar vein, many western animated films are not based on a book. Examples that come into mind are The Incredibles and Toy Story (Pixar), Lilo and Stitch (Disney), On the Road to El Dorado (DreamWorks). I'm sure there's more...

[–] cryptosporidium140@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago
[–] Pat@kbin.run 3 points 11 months ago

Brazil is one of my favourite movies. AFAIK it's not based on a book. It is frequently compared to 1984, but it's not based on it. Just similar themes of a totalitarian dystopia.

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

It's a recent animated film, but I enjoy The Legend of Hei.

It's an animated Chinese film based on an animated web series of a similar name about a little cat spirit trying to find a home and ending up on a long journey.

[–] Nonameuser678@aussie.zone 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Charlie Kaufman's work comes to mind. But he adapted a lot of stories he wrote as novels.

Annihilation is one as well I'd say. Even though it's based on one of my favourite books, the movie did a good job of taking the premise / vibe and making it into something quite original. The book is definitely better by far, but I respect the artistic direction of the movie.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Especially "Adaptation," right?

[–] GFGJewbacca@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Any film made by Christopher Guest and Wes Anderson. Every one of them are gems.

[–] colourlessidea@feddit.de 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Maybe this is controversial - I really like Wes Anderson’s films but they’re more of a visual treat than anything else.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 2 points 11 months ago

The visuals are a major reason to watch them. There is more, but the visuals are big.

Synecdoche, New York Being John Malkovich Unicorn Wars Puss in Boots: The Last Wish Mad God House (1977) Susperia Videodrome

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