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[–] yenahmik@lemmy.world 182 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Imagine having to get a judge to signoff on any other medical procedure, and it really highlights the absurdity.

...this feels a lot like the death panels a certain sect was screeching about back in 2008/2009

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 42 points 7 months ago (10 children)

Frame Canada: Wendell Potter spent decades scaring Americans. About Canada. He worked for the health insurance industry, and he knew that if Americans understood Canadian-style health care, they might.... like it. So he helped deploy an industry playbook for protecting the health insurance agency. https://www.npr.org/2020/10/19/925354134/frame-canada

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Damn, a real world example of South Park's Blame Canada!

eh?

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago

“They’re not even a real country anyway.”

/s

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

"It's easier to fool a man than to convince him he'd been fooled."

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[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 12 points 7 months ago

Instead, I have to wait for the insurance company to sign off on every medical procedure. Not the same, but still garbage.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Imagine having to get a judge to signoff on any other medical procedure

It's not the first time.

[–] yenahmik@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ehh...I think that's a little different in that they needed a judge to determine who had the right to make medical decisions for her. The judge themselves weren't making the call for what should be done, only if it was her husband or parents who had the right to make medical decisions.

This is more along the lines of my appendix is on the verge of bursting. I want it removed. My doctor recommends removal and is willing and able to do so. The govt says I don't think it's bad enough yet and if you do it now I will criminally charge you. Wait until it explodes and you are at risk for sepsis before I will allow you to undergo surgery, despite the fact I have zero medical experience.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 2 points 7 months ago

Fair point, I hadn't thought of it in those terms.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Related, could you imagine having to ask a private, for profit, organization for permission? The same organization that would have to pay money out?

Good thing we avoided those death panels.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Judge Dredd

Judge, jury, and executioner

[–] Birdie@thelemmy.club 91 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Texas judge grants permission for woman to access healthcare.

That's what really happened.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago

Getting the government to sign your permission slip before being allowed necessary medical care

Just small government things

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[–] charonn0@startrek.website 80 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

“There are no facts pled which demonstrate that Ms. Cox is at any more of a risk, let alone life-threatening, than the countless women who give birth every day with similar medical histories,” the state wrote

Wow. They really don't get it, do they?

[–] farcaster@lemmy.world 68 points 7 months ago

No, they get it. And that is so much worse.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 51 points 7 months ago

"We're being just as cruel to her as every other woman in Texas; why should she get special treatment!?"

[–] tygerprints@kbin.social 9 points 7 months ago

Of course they don't. They're men. If THEY were the ones who could get pregnant, you bet your damn life that there'd be "Get Your Free Abortion Here" clinics on every corner of every street in every city around the globe.

[–] deadtom@lemmy.world 52 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Were this my wife and this bullshit caused her to die the only viable path I could see is personally watching myself squeeze the life out of every single one of these morally bankrupt shit stains. Such utter trash. I don't know why we haven't exiled these cultists from civil society.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 16 points 7 months ago

You are the sort of person we need wearing the Punisher symbol. Not these wannabe cops.

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I'd vote not-guilty for you if we were ever in court.

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 30 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That decision is likely to be appealed by the state, which argued that Cox does not meet the criteria for a medical exception.

Great, hold it up in the appeals courts to get the stupid outcome you want regardless of whether you win the appeal, the State. This is the definition of abusing the judicial system.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 17 points 7 months ago

Oh everything took too long and now you can't get an abortion? Tee hee.

[–] Birdie@thelemmy.club 27 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I mean, it's in the article. This pregnancy, which will not survive, has a significant chance of destroying any chance that she can ever carry another pregnancy if allowed to come to term.

To preserve her ability to carry another healthy pregnancy to term, this one must be terminated.

Doctors do things every day to prevent serious harm later and this should not be a situation that demands a woman and her doctor to freaking BEG a judge for permission to be able to follow the medical recommendation.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It's Texas, they literally don't care about this poor woman and the crap situation their philosophy has put her in, in fact they don't even really care about the baby, despite their claims to the country, they just like having power to impose their oppressive worldview on everyone else. They couldn't give a flying rat about the consequences.

[–] GlassHalfHopeful@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 months ago

100 billion percent this

[–] IamSparticles@lemmy.zip 18 points 7 months ago

“The idea that Ms. Cox wants so desperately to be a parent and this law may have her lose that ability is shocking and would be a genuine miscarriage of justice,” Gamble said.

I can't decide if that's a clever choice of words, or a really poor choice of words.

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 15 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Can I go to court and get their permission to jerk off since it's killing a couple trillion babies?

[–] ikapoz@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 months ago

It’s always better to ask forgiveness than permission.

[–] eltrain123@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Don’t ask if you don’t want the answer.

They will tell you it’s a sin to jerk off and will probably try to pass legislation making that illegal, too.

Just rub one out and move on…

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Somebody in Texas has common sense.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

It's a big state. The law of large numbers ought to apply.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

"Texas isn't a red state, it's a non-voting state, so it's a red state."

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 months ago

inb4 they jail the judge

[–] GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's a precedent! LET'S GOOOOOOOO

[–] IamSparticles@lemmy.zip 2 points 7 months ago

I wish. It's a temporary restraining order that only applies to Kate Cox.

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So, tomorrow we should be seeing tons of articles about all the death threats he’s receiving from the cowardly conservatives then?

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 months ago

No need, the TX supreme Court just issued a temporary injunction blocking this decision pending scrutiny. Subjecting medical decisions to the court system is what Texas does because they love freedom and small government.

[–] tygerprints@kbin.social 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Oh isn't that the pinnacle of christian goodness for his highness the judge to dismount from his high manly horse long enough to grant a lowly peasant commoner, and a WOMAN no less, the right to get the healthcare she requires. Let's all bow down and kiss his royal purple ass in thanks. Thank you, conservative men, for ensuring that all women and girls no longer have to be burdened by independence and self care. What a noble gesture.

[–] charonn0@startrek.website 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)
[–] tygerprints@kbin.social 2 points 7 months ago

That's very different. (looks into the camera). Never mind! I now know that to be the case, it was reported on the news last night. Sorry for my flying off the handle. I just assumed the judge was male - is that some kind of reverse chauvinism?

[–] maryjayjay@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

The judge didn't write the law and SHE was the one that granted the exception, dumbass

[–] tygerprints@kbin.social 0 points 7 months ago

Ok you goddamn fucking scumbag, thanks for clarifying that. And being so classy about it.

[–] radioactiveradio@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Man, I can't take news seriously when using the Eternity app for Lemmy.

[–] GlassHalfHopeful@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago

What the... Erm...

I love Boost. And Sync is great.

How that happened is beyond me. 😳

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