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[–] ImTryingLemmy@lemmy.world 198 points 1 year ago (4 children)

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[–] kersploosh@sh.itjust.works 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] harmsy@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (8 children)

That or it traps me in captcha hell and won't let me see anything. WTF, man?

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[–] x4740N@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

12ft.io/https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/06/business/chipotle-attacker-sentenced-to-fast-food-job/index.html

Does this work ?

[–] ImTryingLemmy@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yes it did, thanks. I've seen people use 1ft.io also

edit: lol that lady is a bitch but I'd have told the judge to just sit me for the whole sentence. Eat shit dude, I'm not working fucking fast food. Of course, I don't treat anyone like shit no matter the occupation

[–] ericisshort@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most of all, I feel bad for the fast food workers and patrons that have to deal with her during her two months.

[–] ImTryingLemmy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Fuck, I hope she gets stuck on fry duty

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[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 115 points 1 year ago (4 children)

How will the logistics of this work? Are there fast-food restaurants that would accept a privileged Karen with anger management issues as a member of their team? After all, they have a business with tight margins to run, and this sounds like a huge liability.

[–] MrShankles@reddthat.com 107 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Free labor, and keep her away from customers. Cleaning, prepping, whatever. If she causes problems, she violates probation and serves the rest of time in prison. Give the store an incentive to deal with her. With thin margins, I'd take those odds. Fuck threatening to fire; if you fuck up, you go back to prison. "Now clean the damn fryer's like your freedom depended on it"

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 77 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Don't keep her from customers. Let the Karen deal with the Karens. Poetic justice.

[–] Nepenthe@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While it is funny, I don't think that the punishment for her in this article will really amount to much. If she had the kind of empathy necessary to relate that experience with what she put others through, she wouldn't have done it in the first place.

Whatever customers like herself that she comes across, I think it's a 50/50 whether she spends her time doing nothing but exacerbating problems and causing regular scenes or siding with "her people" and breaking rules, stealing, etc. out of spite.

Agree with MrShankles it has to be under threat of breaking probation to even work. Ultimately, she needs more reform than just receiving identical abuse in turn.

[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 42 points 1 year ago

Lots of people only experience empathy for other people when they are directly involved or confronted with those people.

Like all those stories of homophobes who reform after learning a loved one is gay. They need their nose shoved in it before they could even picture someone elses viewpoint, but if you do that then they do empathize.

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[–] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Many, many fast food restaurants are super short staffed because no one wants to do the job at the current market rate. If she actually tried she could find one in a day.

Also, fast food margins really aren't that tight.

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[–] KnowledgeableNip@leminal.space 10 points 1 year ago

The article says she has yet to find the job.

Good luck finding someone to hire you for only two months as punishment for abuse. I'm sure they're scrambling for predetermined extremely short term employment from a toxic pile.

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[–] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 100 points 1 year ago (5 children)

On the one hand, I like this, but on the other hand it’s bad if judges are handing out other people’s every day life as a punishment

[–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 93 points 1 year ago

This is meant to be rehabilitation by teaching her empathy. Jail won’t change her but this might.

[–] CodingCarpenter@lemm.ee 75 points 1 year ago

Don't think of it that way. You're not saying oh this is terrible so now you have to do this. You're saying this is a demanding job and you ought to have respect for the people who do it. Give them a little insight into the hardships of the people they're giving shit

[–] JCreazy@midwest.social 31 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Perhaps we don't call it a punishment. We can call it rehabilitation.

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[–] magnetosphere@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago

Some people’s everyday lives are punishment. That’s the world we’ve built.

On top of that, there are those who can’t/won’t learn empathy. The only way they can understand is by actually living through it themselves. I think sentences like this should be commonplace for anyone who commits a crime against a service worker.

[–] Lyrac@programming.dev 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This was my first thought as well. But on the other hand, I thinks it's great if we can set aside our desire for punishment/retribution and just increase empathy. (Walk a mile in their shoes)

Maybe on their last day of service, the person they assaulted gets to throw a burrito bowl in their face. Then we get the best of both worlds.

[–] Fleur__@lemmy.world 98 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
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[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 73 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Her attorney, Joseph O’Malley, said his client had no criminal record before the incident and that she is truly sorry for her actions that day.

“Let’s give her the opportunity to not let this one day define the rest of her life,” he told CNN.

Righhhht. No way she always treat fast food (and other services industry) employees that way, and this is just the first time it escalated to court.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

She's likely a cunt, but why ruin people's futures when you can have teachable moments, this sentencing is brilliant and should have been a bit longer.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

And let's not forget she's also spending a month in jail before being released to work fast food.

What she did was horrible, but she's definitely not getting off free.

[–] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The amount of people I know who have worked, or currently work, retail and food service yet still treat workers like shit is an indication to me that some people just don't have a natural capacity for empathy and this sort of teaching moment will not work on them.

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[–] IanSomnia@lemmy.world 71 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some little leagues have a similar rule. If a parent verbally abuses an umpire enough that parent must umpire a certain number of games to see just how hard it is. Punishment fits the crime perfectly.

[–] schmidtster@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago

My kids little league tried that, lasted a game before they realized that having a biased ref that doesn’t know the rules doesn’t make for a fun experience for the kids.

One of those sounds great in theory things, which is why it’s probably such a popular fallacy to spread.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 61 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Everyone should be forced to work a service industry job for at least six months when they're teenagers. It helps you develop a healthy misanthropy

[–] PaperTowel@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago

Absolutely my first job was fast food, and I had no clue the level of entitlement of some people. Some people treat fast food employees like they're not even people.

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 14 points 1 year ago

That sounds like a way for service industries to exploit their workforce even more; if people have to work them, then competition for those jobs would rise, especially during non school hours. Plus, if school is any indication, kids would put it basically no effort if they have to work there and cant just be fired (and if they can, what happens if they are and therefore cannot complete the six months?). I dont think itd really reduce the entitlement either, itd just become "Ive done my service work so I'm entitled to act however I want, kid!" from those kinds of customers anyway.

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[–] voidMainVoid@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I thought we had laws against cruel and unusual punishment.

It's an opt-in arrangement.

[–] Vorticity@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

This is part of a plea bargain. She had a choice of three months in jail or one month in jail and two months working a fast food job. She had a choice between a "normal" three month sentence or this "unusual" sentence.

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[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Everyone should have at least one bad service job once in their life.

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[–] SnugZebras@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love the comment from Chipotle about justice being served.

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Justice is a dish best served... with a side of chips and our famous guacamole, and a 20oz fountain drink!

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Justice is extra, is that okay?

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[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

now that’s justice

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Gilligan told CNN he’s not sure Hayne is as sorry as she claimed to be in court, pointing out that she was still complaining about the food during the hearing.

“She still has not picked up that this is not appropriate,” Gilligan told CNN Wednesday.

“You didn’t get your burrito bowl the way you like it, and this is how you respond?” he told Hayne during the hearing. He suggested she’s not going to be happy with the food she’s about to get in jail.

I like this judge.

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[–] magnetosphere@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The length of time is good, too. It takes you about a month to get competent, and another month to realize that no, it doesn’t matter how good you get. The job sucks regardless.

I hope they put her on register so she gets lots of face time with lovely customers like herself. No fair if she hides in back making guacamole all day!

[–] brihuang95@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 year ago

This is actually very fitting

[–] theodewere@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

that's brutal.. serve quesadillas with a smile or go to jail.. we need a film crew to follow this saga daily..

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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