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[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 96 points 9 months ago (5 children)

It depends on how hard you push the envelope. The closer you get to doing something no one has ever done before, the more likely you are to be in your own.

Of course, any time you're doing something no one has ever done before, it's prudent to consider whether you should.

[–] xpinchx@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Lol this applies to so many things. Maybe there's some prestige to doing something for the first time, but really there were probably a dozen people that contemplated it and decided against it for good reasons.

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Of course, any time you’re doing something no one has ever done before, it’s prudent to consider whether you should.

As a pentester I approve this message

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[–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I still have to look up basic things even when I'm doing that, sadly.

Things like "how do I reverse an array?" Will always be in my Google history because I can't remember ".reverse" exists.

Could I reimplement ".reverse" or just read the docs for an array? Yes. Will I? Never.

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[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 68 points 9 months ago (31 children)

I'm old enough that when I was in school, teachers were telling us that we'd never have calculators in our pockets wherever we'd go.

[–] TheOneWithTheHair@lemmy.world 33 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I'm that old, too. Can you imagine a student back then saying, "I'll have a calculator, flashlight, camera, video recorder, music collection, and games to pass the times I have to wait on others."

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 30 points 9 months ago (3 children)

"Oh yeah and it's also a phone"

[–] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"Oh yeah and it's also a computer that's more powerful than any computer you've ever laid eyes on that has access to an unimaginable wealth of human knowledge via a wireless connection to the Internet."

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago (3 children)

What the fuck is an Internet?

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago
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[–] if_only@sh.itjust.works 63 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Googling does become a hell of a lot easier if you know what the concept you're looking for is called.

[–] MeatsOfRage@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I find myself going to ChatGPT for this stuff now.

"I'm trying to do something like [concept]. What is that called and can you give me an example"

Usually I get my results faster and easier than Google.

[–] hswolf@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago (7 children)

be careful using it as your only source of truth, even more so when you don't know what you're searching for exactly

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[–] popemichael@lemmy.sdf.org 32 points 9 months ago (2 children)

"There is no point in reinventing the wheel" is my favorite saying when it comes to things like this.

If something has been done over and over again, there is no point in doing it yourself from scratch. It wastes time, money, and effort that could be spent on creating something new.

Humanity's greatest strength is being able to add to the previous generation's knowledge base, too!

If we had to relearn how to do the same things in the same way, in every generation, we would still be in the stone age...

When I manage folks, I expect them to steal if its already been done and especially if it's been done to death.

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

If I relied on my college CS textbooks as reference for anything I code now, not only would it have been outdated 2 years after purchase, but it's been ten damn years now. Only actual reference books I have are for theory. And even then it's probably not the best source anymore.

[–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

there is no point in doing it yourself from scratch.

Learning. The point is to learn.

You don't have to learn everything that way, but you understand things a lot better when you've built them from scratch, and that underlying foundation enhances the entire knowledge stack.

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[–] averagedrunk@lemmy.ml 32 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I've made it two decades in IT and related fields by searching for answers using Google. I accidentally took my laziness, love of automation, and ability to Google and became an SRE. Then I accidentally became a senior software engineer because the director on that side of the house liked my initiative and was sure my skills would translate. I protested but got a substantial bump to do it.

I'm failing upwards by abusing stack overflow and search engines.

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[–] shiroininja@lemmy.world 26 points 9 months ago (32 children)

I literally made money on a contract this year doing something I’d never even done. Thank you google. Love it

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[–] ElBarto@sh.itjust.works 21 points 9 months ago (5 children)

I can at least agree with the last line.

Don't use google.

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[–] kratoz29@lemm.ee 19 points 9 months ago

Too bad Google search sucks now.

[–] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

As someone who worked in tech support and a sys admin role, yes, and thank you. I would say 90% of all issues and problems I had were either solved or pointed in the right direction since 2006, the year I started.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

I'll do you one better. I've learned that in the absence of online information for a bug or fault, that I'm most likely attempting something that is better solved another way. Like, nobody does it like the harebrained thing I just invented, so it's just me and everyone else with a (different) working solution.

[–] Sorgan71@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] CurlyMoustache@lemmy.world 25 points 9 months ago (2 children)

"When will you ever walk around with a calculator in your pockets!?"

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 24 points 9 months ago (7 children)

My teacher dead ass said that to me when I was 9 and had a Casio wrist watch with a calculator on it.

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[–] SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Do teachers actually say this these days? Or are you making it up just for the sake of the meme.

[–] linkrulesx10@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago (3 children)

As a teacher, no. Now we say don't trust the Google summary, click a link for more information!

[–] Shard@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Funny. In my day Wikipedia just came out and they used to give the same advice. In comparison, I would wager any random wiki article has a better chance of being more reliable and a better answer to your question than a Google summary.

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[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Googling problems certainly helps but you still need enough knowledge to define the problem, Google it, and implement the solution.

I get the impression that a lot of posted solutions are from people who actually spoke to high level tech support for various hardware/software because how else would they know things like what obscure registry key with a very arbitrary name to add?

[–] iamericandre@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That’s a big part people don’t understand is you need to know enough about your problem to google the correct terms and find what you need. Googling itself is a learned skill.

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[–] xePBMg9@lemmynsfw.com 13 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Just don't google google. No laughing matter. You could break the internet.

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[–] Yuion@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Google search results have become so bad i barely use it today. Its even better to use chatgpt. You have to take every answer with a grain of salt but usually it can give you a few options and give you resources to work with. Google search sucks ass. The amount of times i do NOT find what im searching for is way too high

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[–] r00ty@kbin.life 10 points 9 months ago

Well, you need the basics of software development to start with. But sure, I'm not going to make my own implementation for every problem I come across. That would be insanity and a colossal waste of time.

However, people googling or using ChatGPT to create code they do not understand themselves, are just cargo cult programming, and it will bite them in the arse/ass (delete as applicable).

[–] Zatore@lemm.ee 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Im full time IT, a huge chunk of my job was learned through google. My current position looked incredibly different before we had phones and could research everything on the fly. I feel bad for tech's who didn't have access to research tools like we do now.

[–] woodenskewer@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I work in controls and I couldn't imagine how life was working with allen bradley stuff pre internet. there's a manual for everything

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[–] Veticia@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Your teacher was at least right about not using Google. Use literally whatever else

[–] kamen@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Searching does help, but hey, you have to know what to search for and then how to apply the findings.

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