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[–] zepheriths@lemmy.world 159 points 1 year ago (39 children)

You literally have the most expensive possible options for every single one of those

[–] Th4tGuyII@kbin.social 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Food is absolutely getting more expensive, but they equally bought a rod for their own back buying all the premium brand stuff.

Spoiling yourself is all well and good, but they shouldn't complain something expensive was expensive haha

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[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 98 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Buying prepared food is expensive.

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[–] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 80 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s relatively cheap…

You’ve got 8 buns there so buying 4 more patties would take the whole thing to $28 for 8 burgers and cutting the danish into 8 slices which is probably the serving size anyway. Or $3.50 per burger and slice of danish.

And you grabbed the most expensive versions of things too.

[–] cryostars@lemmyf.uk 15 points 1 year ago (6 children)

But no toppings (lettuce, tomato, cheese, onions etc.) So a plain burger and a piece of Danish for 3.50 isn't exactly great value nutritionally. But yeah this could be done cheaper and probably could have gotten at least some store brand cheese too.

[–] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

All of that might be another $2 total. Produce is generally dirt cheap.

They could also make their own homemade black bean burger patties for far cheaper than $2.50 a patty too. Premade stuff is expensive.

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[–] pixxelkick@lemmy.world 71 points 1 year ago (7 children)
  1. Fancy brioche buns, not normal burger buns. Brioche is typically the most expensive bread off the shelf.
  2. Fancy veggie burgers, of course they are expensive lol, that's fancy vegan stuff
  3. Don't pretend that is a Danish singular. That's a huge fuckin Danish, that's the equivalent of 4 Danishes easily lol

I hate when people buy fancy bespoke food and are like "why do my gluten free vegan free range burgers cost so much?"

If you want to be vegetarian/vegan, go buy normal vegis, don't complain about your super fancy "takes a bunch of extra work and has very low demand" food being expensive.

[–] Ambiorickx@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Yeah, that’s not a danish, that’s an entire cake. It’s 14 ounces.

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[–] janNatan@lemmy.ml 68 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Artisan brioche buns. Plant based burgers are more expensive then the real thing for some reason (and full of salt). That Danish is a ripoff.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

The reason is that the US spends a ton of money subsidizing the beef industry. Beef would be a hell of a lot more expensive if they didn't.

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[–] Blaidd@lemm.ee 56 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's so sad how many posters would rather blame OP for spending an extra dollar on better bread and veggie patties rather than actually acknowledge the blatant price gouging on food. The idea that everyone should only be buying the cheapest ingredients is just stupid. No one is living a fulfilling life eating nothing but cheap beans and rice everyday, and food prices have been ridiculous for a while now.

[–] s1nistr4@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I miss the good ol days where inflation was so low, you could pick fruit off a vine/bush/tree and it was free

[–] PatFussy@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Nowadays, you have to pay HOA just to get a smell of that community cherry tree

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (8 children)

The point is that it's all processed and premade, that's why it costs so much. Make your own beef patties with ground beef and some seasonings, just bake a damn dessert for once and stop getting the fancy artisanal bread and just go with whole wheat.

Nothing about that requires eating rice and beans, you just don't want to accept that some shit requires effort and when you outsource that you pay more.

Yeah food costs an insane amount, but you don't have to buy the "we did the work for you" tier of food if your income can't handle it. You're not entitled to having everything done for you. Learn to goddamn cook.

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[–] JamesStallion@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago (10 children)

There is nothing unfuflfilling about beans and rice. This is the staple diet of almost a billion people. We are just so far removed from reality that we think of a healthy diet as a terrible punishment.

[–] Blaidd@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

You did not understand my comment very well. Beans and rice are great staple foods, I love them. A well rounded diet involves more than just beans and rice.

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[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Well, those are some fancy burgers... Worth the money if you have it, IMO, but not something I'd buy on a budget. I usually get the Morningstar Farms chipotle black bean burgers, which Costco sells in a big box for a good price. They aren't trying to be indistinguishable from meat (which isn't a priority for me anyway) but they're greasy (in a good way) and delicious.

Plus the Morningstar burgers have the rare advantage of being microwaveable. (I suppose you can technically microwave anything, but they're good after being microwaved.) I'm not just saying that because I'm lazy - I have a little electric grill I can use, but I don't need to for them and it's nice to save a little bit of time that way.

[–] Remmock@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

Morningstars don’t even need to be eaten like a hamburger. A little red wine vinegar, a few drops of olive oil, and a light sprinkling of Italian herbs turns that into some gourmet shit.

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[–] Krudler@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think the other side that doesn't get explored very often is how convenience food makers have gotten everybody hooked and unable to cook anymore.

Now that that is generally locked-in behavior in our society, the price goes through the roof.

I know people that literally do not know how to make rice because it's "too hard".

We should acknowledge that grocery prices have gone up in that price-gouging is rampant. We should also acknowledge that most of people's money spent at the grocery store is to exchange hundreds of dollars of extra money, for minutes less preparation.

In this picture of this person paid $10 for a pound of "burger". A pound of ground beef or tofu is a third that price. It takes a minute to slap a couple patties together or to slice off a few slabs, dry them and fry them.

I really feel like we need to enhance this conversation. I think a lot of people don't want to have it because they want to have the convenience but not the price and it's just not sustainable anymore. I think people need to look at their own dietary lifestyle, and consider what they're trading for that convenience.

[–] somenonewho@feddit.de 23 points 1 year ago (4 children)

A pound of ground beef or tofu is a third that price.

I understand what you're trying to say here. But I just wanted to add, making a vegetarian/vegan burger is not as simple as grinding up a pound of tofu and sticking it together to fry in a pan. I'm not saying you have to buy some of the "no meat" brand burgers to make a nice vegan patty but simply substituting some meat with natural unprepared tofu and expecting a great tasting result is IMHO where a lot of people get their aversion to tofu (and often derived to all meat alternatives) from. (Source 15years of vegetarian eating and cooking) The fact that ready made vegan patties exist and taste great these days is awesome for someone like me who sometimes just wants to make a stupid simple tasty burger.

Tl;dr: Tasty vegan patties aren't that simple.

I agree that people should be encouraged to cook more (I love doing it when I have time and it hits me). But simply declaring "nobody can cook anymore" and demanding people that might not have the time to prepare a home cooked meal in between their first and second job is not helping.

Of course the convenience of fast food and ready made meals is one of these classic situations where an "invention" that makes our life simpler and more convenient is a good reason why we don't need all that time we save to ourselves anymore. i.e. you don't need a lunch break when you can just microwave something up and eat it while continuing your work.

Sorry got kind of a long winded bit here. Hope it makes sense

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[–] AnotherRyguy@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

I agree with you for the most part but a pound of ground beef for under 4 bucks?! Where I live it's rarely less than $8 lb, but definitely a high cost area. Even chicken is usually more than $6 per lb now.

Even a damn tomato or onion is more than a dollar these days and bell peppers are $2 each!

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[–] Norgoroth@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What a sucker, seed packets to grow your own Barley and wheat come out to 0.0003c per seed! Just grow your own crops NOOB

[–] univers3man@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Is there a frugaljerk community yet?

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[–] arin@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Danish was a fair choice but your buns and burgers were premium stuff, expect premium prices Mr. Ultimate burger

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I get a sack of rice, a couple avocados, dry beans, frozen broccoli and corn, lime or two, bunch of spices if you don't already have. Whatever Mexican spices recipe online but definitely get smoked paprika it's straight up drugs. This will cost more than the burger set in the picture but it makes more meals.

Instant pot rice, instant pot seasoned beans with a second inner pot, 1/8 of tall wide mouth mason jar each of rice and beans, arbitrary amount of broc corn and cubed avocado leaving about 1/8 of jar as air, tablespoon or so of lime juice. Cool the jars and freeze once cool. I use plastic lid rings with silicone insert since the metal ones get rusty when used like this. I'll prep like 40 of these in one session but that's definitely using a bigger budget so I don't have to do it as often.

My recommended rice is long grain brown with about 1/16 to 1/8 of the amount cooked being wild rice mixed in. They both take the same amount of time to cook when mixed, but it's a decent amount longer than white rice. I usually put an arbitrary splash of sake or gin in the water for cooking the rice but it's largely a habit from copying grandpa.

I take a frozen jar to work with me in a lunch bag and it doubles as an ice pack for whatever else I want in there. I aim for it to be thawed enough to shake it and mix it before microwaving. For at home I thaw it in the fridge the day before. When I didn't have a microwave I just steamed the whole jar in the instant pot.

Jars and instant pot + accessories were all things I waited for sales on. It can be done without instant pot but it's probably the safest way I can think of to cook things and fuck off without worrying about it burning the house down. Jars are merely the cheapest I could find in decent quantity and dishwasher safe.

This is probably the cheapest with highest output volume food option I batch prep. I also do things like potato leek and/or squash soup, or potato cheese and soy bacon soup (I'm not actually vegetarian or vegan but it's a real pain cooking all the bacon needed and cutting meat is tiresome), and some other stuff that has been hit or miss that I only tried once. I keep them all in a chest freezer and I take out whatever I feel like eating as an easy microwave meal, unless I'm running low and need to reserve them for work lunches.

[–] LeafOnTheWind@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

1/8 of tall wide mouth mason jar each

Americans really will use anything but the metric system /s

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

Lol I'm actually Canadian and prefer metric, but these jars have weird and inconsistent volume so I just eyeball everything and the last one that has a different amount from the others is the one I eat on the spot.

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[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I'm so used to NYC food prices that $20 for four meals seems like a steal

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[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm in Vietnam having a peek about. Just ate a light, 4 course meal with beers for two for about usd $6.. It was incredible.

The world is indeed out of balance.

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[–] colourlesspony@pawb.social 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

That is kind of what you get when you buy super processed foods. If you want to save money you have to buy low processed foods. For example, you can get a 3lb bag of apples ($5), 5 cans of beans ($5), 2lb carrots ($2), 5 lbs Potatoes ($5) for the same price.

[–] funkajunk@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And then you can make a delicious pot of apple & bean stew! 🤤

[–] erusuoyera@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago

But you'd really struggle to make burgers and a Danish.

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[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you had bought normal store brand buns instead of artisan brioche, they are a third of the price. You are paying 2.50 per veggie burger pattie instead of a bit more or less than a dollar per pattie in morning star and great value brands. 5 dollars for a Danish that size is not ludicrous, but I bet you could have shopped around better for that too. You could have cut the total price in half at least if you were paying attention to prices and brands. Not saying that prices aren't getting out of hand, but it doesn't look like you even tried.

[–] Elivey@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

If there weren't price tags in the pic I would have guessed this would be $25-$30. This type of convenient food, none the less fancier versions of convenient foods, are expensive. Go figure.

If "proper shopping" is buying cheap and healthy food then yeah OP you suck at it.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe it's just a flavor preference, but why vegan burgers (no dairy or egg as well as no meat) with brioche (eggs, butter) and danish(cheese, butter)? Nvm, I did some looking and I didn't see any meatless burgers that aren't also vegan.

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[–] Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

The world is going to shit. Didn't you get the memo?

[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 year ago

Time to go back to making veggie "burgers" out of portabella mushrooms and beans lol

[–] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

$10 for McDonald's combo for 1. $10-$14 for Carl's combo.

Yet you are complaining about 18.50 for fancy buns and a veggie patty for 4. Really?

Go cheap then.

[–] Knightfox@lemmy.one 10 points 1 year ago

The only thing that seems expensive is the veggie patties in my opinion. For $4.99 I would have expected a 4 pack.

The buns are a bit pricey, but we're talking a dollar and some change then.

Looks to me like you have most of 4 lunches and 4 breakfasts for $18.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's about 5 a burger. While it isn't exactly a good price, it isn't out of scale. A good veggie burger is highly processed, it has to be or it won't hold together, nor taste right.

Seriously, try and whip up your own version some time. It's labor intensive. Even if that labor is done by machine, that factors into pricing compared to a meat burger (which is still a good bit of processing, just less complicated).

They absolutely should cost less, I'm not denying that. But it isn't out of scale with what highly processed foods cost. They should all cost less, but that's a separate thing.

Besides, you know anything vegetarian or vegan is going to be priced higher just because is a niche product. They know they can get away with it; if a vegetarian is buying that kind of thing, they're obviously not willing to do the work it takes to do it themselves (and it is a lot of work to make a good veggie burger at home).

And, if you want something other than fast food burgers, it isn't like a meat burger is any less than that. So, again, the scale isn't that bad.

Edit: I missed the danish in the pic. That's a quarter of the price total by itself. Which means that the entire group is priced normally compared to what I see in stores. And, you're down to about 3 a burger, which is also a decent price compared to the ultimate stuff when you get it from a restaurant. Again, I still agree that food shouldn't cost that much, but you would have trouble getting your per burger price below that if you made your own.

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[–] qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I don't know. Depending on where you live, that sounds about on the mark for what you bought. Groceries are getting expensive.

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