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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/28232681

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[–] anas@lemmy.world 7 points 21 minutes ago

Why are there way more AI comic posts than usual lately?

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 1 points 7 minutes ago

Except just following orders can no longer keep you from getting convicted.

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 41 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

Did AI make this? It looks like it

[–] sabin@lemmy.world 4 points 50 minutes ago

Nah dw the mom just has epidermodysplasia verruciformis

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 59 points 2 hours ago

It was just following orders.

[–] RedPostItNote@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

Why is that man pulling her braid lol

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 hours ago

I don't want to assume their gender but that's a man, baby!

[–] dvlsg@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago

Must've trained the AI on Wheel of Time.

[–] MECHAGODZILLA2@midwest.social 4 points 1 hour ago

…he’s just following orders

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 1 points 37 minutes ago
[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 54 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

The message: 👍

The AI generated slop: 🫤

I could've made this art.

[–] Halosheep@lemm.ee 23 points 2 hours ago
[–] Apepollo11@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

Shocking truth:

Humans can make all art made by AI.

Humans can make all calculations made by computers.

People use tools to achieve their goals more efficiently. It's the way it always has been. It doesn't mean there's no value attached to it.

Incidentally, for all of the "this is AI" brigade, what are you picking up on? I'm not picking up on any of the classic tells. Aside from the closed fists in the first and last image, where I'd personally go for an open hand, I don't see anything obviously amiss.

[–] belastend@slrpnk.net 2 points 11 minutes ago

Hands, faces, eyes, insignias. The usual shit.

[–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Dude pulling on native american person's braid, mother and daughter look too similar, mom's hand is messed up, SS logos are messed up

There's a wave of AI generated comics hitting lemmy right now. At first i was in the same boat as you, found it difficult to identify

Now after seeing more and more, my brain's detection algorithms are updating.

I'm quite good at seeing obvious AI slop images, but comics was a totallly new thing i had to learn to detect

[–] Apepollo11@lemmy.world 2 points 59 minutes ago* (last edited 32 minutes ago) (1 children)

Ah, thanks for that!

I was genuinely interested because I used to lecture when the GANs first started appearing. Ironically enough, I used to point out to the students how you could tell photos were generated (mismatching ears shapes, asymmetrical glasses, oddly shaped jewellery etc.).

Seems like I need more exposure to the comic art side of things!

[–] ThanksForAllTheFish@sh.itjust.works 3 points 33 minutes ago

If you're interested in seeing how good it's gotten now, some are impressive https://sora.com/explore/images

[–] SassyRamen@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

What ever you do, don't look at the Native American's eyes. 🥴

[–] Apepollo11@lemmy.world 1 points 38 minutes ago
[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world -2 points 1 hour ago

What's your point?

[–] MissJinx@lemmy.world 9 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

if you work for ICE I think your views already align with theirs

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 3 points 2 hours ago

To be fair, the nazi guy also looks like he's in the SS.

[–] D_C@lemm.ee 16 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (3 children)

The good news for (most of) the pieces of shit from the 1830s and 1940s is that there wasn't a tool for us to use to name and shame.
However for this generation of fascist scum there is now the internet. And it should be used to track down and tackle the ICE scumbags. Fuck them.

Edit: Reee, AI, blah blah because, yes, that's the most horrible thing about this post. Definitely not the kidnapping and fascism. Fuck sake.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Interesting moral dilemma: is ai use acceptable if it's to spread a message like this?

[–] D_C@lemm.ee 2 points 35 minutes ago* (last edited 13 minutes ago)

Is it acceptable? Honestly I don't know, it's tricky.
It is not as if the picture is of real people that have been manipulated. Which is unacceptable . So, for me, it's down to if the op couldn't get their message across without it because, again for me, the message is far more important (at the moment).
And AI being shoved in to everything and up everyone's arses is a problem for another day.

What I do know is that I posted my comment then read other comments and that most of the replies that mentioned AI were just mentioning AI. Some mentioned AI and the general message of the post. Some mentioned the message, but the majority and their replies were just about the AI.
Which, to me, means that OP's message seems to be less important.
If op could draw themselves I don't think they would have used AI.

A quick "fuck AI" then acknowledgement about the general meaning of the post is far more important, and on topic, than just mentioning AI.
The general message of this post has been steam rollered by other things, and it really shouldn't be like that.

[–] Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

you are on track with the right kind of thinking and the children are too busy whining about the AI. fuck the AI haters. let them say it to my face. we have bigger fish to fry. anybody that wants to get distracted like that is a liability and should be treated as such.

[–] belastend@slrpnk.net 1 points 12 minutes ago

The sentiment of the post is right, but AI is shit and we can adress smaller shit while also focussing on big shit :)

There, said it to your internet face

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

Fuck sake.

Dude. Nobody got kidnapped or fascisted over this post. But the use of AI was a real thing that actually occurred. Yes, it's perfectly appropriate for people to care about that, and some people, believe it or fucking not, can hold two things in their heart at the same time. If I can make you ignore whatever I'm actually doing just by referencing Mussolini, I have a superpower over you. And maybe people do.

Also, fuck your low key ableism. Let "reee" die.

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[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It's an inherent problem of the human condition, for some reason our own moral compass becomes dysfunctional once the authority and therefore responsibility is with someone else. It's the reason the Stanford Prison Experiment went so wrong once the professor took influence; we're not inherently evil, we (as a species) are just drawn to the current ruleset as dictated by our social group or idol of choice, especially if we get convinced it's somehow necessary.

Obviously not trying to abolish any guilt here, people are still responsible for what they're doing.

In the end we need way higher quality of education globally, better social security, rethink society (don't have children be on their own and make parents constantly burned out, god damn it) as well as political systems so they are designed to prevent any definition of an in- and out-group. Protections for who, what, where and how people are are great, and stuff like Germany's Article 1 is a good start, but it needs to go way further.

We need to design an environment that allows us humans to become more than we currently are if we ever want to get out of this cycle.

[–] shrugs@lemmy.world 14 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 hours ago (4 children)

It confirms claims Zimbardo pushed participants towards the results he wanted, something he has disputed.

That's actually what I referred to, although I indeed didn't know know about the other statements by participants. Only knew about someone in Stanford digging through the files and realizing Zimbardo fucked everything up by pushing towards a certain outcome. Mmh…

I still stand with my statements about what we should do better though.

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[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 50 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

can we please keep this AI shit out of here

[–] This2ShallPass@lemmy.world 47 points 5 hours ago

Don't get upset about AI. It was just following orders.

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 17 points 6 hours ago (10 children)

I approve the message! The images are just reinforcement so I don't really care if it's AI. Not everyone can draw.

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[–] the_trash_man@lemmy.world 113 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Dont love the AI slop but appreciate the message

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 4 minutes ago

It does seem a little odd to include the USA twice and not to include China or the USSR once. They could have even included Dutch slavers putting Africans on a boat.

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