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[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 hour ago

Ukrainians: "the Germans are here to liberate us from the Russian yoke. And they actually mean it this time!"

[–] CptEnder@lemmy.world 28 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Tbf Poland would be joining them this time around.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 14 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

They're allowed to take out one German tank with light cavalry, for old time's sake.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

You know...as the battlefield becomes ever more automated, there might be a very brief window where the winged hussars could make a comeback.

Let's say you have a battlefield riddled with smart drones. They have image recognition and immediately attack anything resembling a tank or other military asset. Do you think anyone bothered to program the drones to seek out and attack a unit outfit like 18th century Polish cavalry? A charge on horseback just might be able to ride completely undisturbed through the right kind of drone-controlled battlefield.

[–] Glitterbomb@lemmy.world 1 points 2 minutes ago

Ukranian drones are already equipped to target the latest Russian logistic vehicles, donkeys.

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 1 points 53 minutes ago (1 children)

They would be programmed to kill anything that moved just to be sure they get everything. They will be deployed like mine fields except the owners could disable them to move through the drone field.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 2 points 50 minutes ago

Do you want your drones to burn through their numbers attacking deer and birds? That's what happens if you set them to attack anything.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 24 points 2 hours ago

You guys have the most experience with that sort of thing

[–] AlienContact2049@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

Assuming the internet exists in the future...

[–] Naevermix@lemmy.world 140 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 23 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Ahh polandball. I missed these

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 9 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

These always remind me that I'm a dumb American.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago

We can stand to be roasted more then a little bit.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 34 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Poland: "What about attacking Russia alongside with an ally?"

[–] sxan@midwest.social 24 points 3 hours ago

Aye, I could do that.

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Germany: "i thought these days would never come again. Fighting russia with poland and france like we did late 1700s and early 1800s"

[–] Opisek@lemmy.world 12 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

The original band coming back for one more single.

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Wouldnt say it was a band. Napoleon forced some of the germans, the others joined because they wanted to be on the winning side, and the poles fought with Bonaparte for their freedom

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

So like a supergroup. Like the Highwaymen.

🎶"I wore a picklehaube, on the Rhineland I did ride..." 🎶

[–] sxan@midwest.social 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

If Germany had started with, and stuck to, attacking Russia, I doubt it'd have been a world war. I don't remember who all were Russia's allies at the start, but IIRC only the French were particularly fond of Russia. There weren't a lot of the usual royal contract-through-marriage, were there? Did many nobles have Russian cousins?

[–] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

I'm afraid you're gonna have to come up with a specific timeframe here.

WW1? The Germany Empire wasn't really the spark for this one. The entire royalty of the continent was effectively cousins. There may be some wiggle room, but most of them were literal cousins, with Wilhelm II and Nicholas II being most notable in this context.

Nobody was 'fond' of Russia in any way. Most European nations then saw it as they do now- large, unpredictable, and territorially aggressive. France and Britain were a part of the Triple Entente not because they trusted each other, but because it was a reasonably sensible counter to the Triple Alliance.

WW2? Royal intermarriage was mostly a moot point after the first go around even in nations that managed to not get their entire lineages deposed. As for the Soviet Union, still wildly unpopular. If your point is that Nazi Germany might have gotten away with things if they'd stayed tied up with Russia instead of trying to diversify their murder portfolio- I'd disagree. They would have gotten the OK from other Western powers for a time, but would still crumple from internal strife, the war was as much a wallpapering of those issues as it was any grand ambitions of Hitler's.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 points 37 minutes ago

I think the point is more that for WW2 the other nations would have just left them to it more. Maybe profit off the increased demand for materials. However, the war started because of Germany invading Poland, and you kinda need to go through Poland to get to the USSR.

Encourage the USSR to try and take all of Poland first, then attack back when they are getting close? Not sure tbh.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 1 points 48 minutes ago

Sure, good point; I assumed we were taking about WWII because - as you point out - Germany wasn't the instigator, and OPs post seemed to imply WWII.

And I disagree about the irrelevance of noble ties at the start of WWII. Yes, most of the countries involved were no longer monarchies, but names still had weight. Take Thurn und Taxis in Germany, for instance.

I grant that by 1930 they weren't the drivers of policy, and even before that Europe's royalty were regularly going to war with their cousins. But few in the hereditary European elite had many ties to Russia.

I didn't say Germany would have won a war with Russia, only that if they had, and has stayed focused on Russia, it wouldn't have become a world war. There'd have been no "Allies".

There's a big caveat there, though, and that's Japan. Germany attacking Russia would have naturally resulted in an alliance with Japan in any case, and once America got involved now the Germans are allied against the Americans. Without the Western front, though, America could have focused all efforts on Japan and might have allied with Russia; the Pacific conflict might have been shorter, and not ended with the Bomb. But once Japan's defeated, does America continue to reinforce Russia against Japan's former allies, the Germans?

I also wonder what role Africa would have played. Germany was always going to need to go after the oil, and what alliances would have resulted from that? I don't think any of the Western countries saw Africa as anything more than a source of natural resources, so it would have been less "coming to their aid" and more "protecting our assets there".

Without an invasion of France, or aggression against the UK directly, would the UK have gotten involved, or would Chamberlain's policy held? I feel as if France, if anything, would have only dug in and fortified their borders, and watched.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 16 points 6 hours ago

Yeah, we know, irony is dead. But if the world made sense then the Orange Idiot wouldn't be in charge.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 hours ago (6 children)

"the entire western world"

A bunch of crazy politicians want that. The majority of people in both sides wants peace and would like their money to be spend in useful things and not giant armies.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

No, a bunch of people who want Ukraines sovereignty respected want that. I don't want Germany to invade russia, this person is being hyperbolic. But Germans securing the Ukrainian border is fine.

[–] Glitterbomb@lemmy.world 1 points 1 minute ago

Nah, I would enjoy a march on Moscow.

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

Russia, both politician and population, is not backing down. they have tied their own identity to war. this problem is not going away until its made to go away.

I assure you. You do not want to live in Russkiy Mir. (The Russian World). where most of europe is enslaved, or dead.

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (3 children)

The russian population is heavily on board with their genocide. Polish are always on board to kick russias ass, most of france, germany, skandinavia, spain and portugal and italy are too. Britain is basicly united on this as one could see in their last parliament seating where even nigle farage was all in. Turkey also stands with ukraine, island is just minding its own buisness and ireland i honestly have no idea what is going on there. BeNeLux is also on board but have their own problems intern, austria is too buissy sniffing essential oils to care, balkan mostly also against russia even serbia though they play both sides. Hungarian and slovakian leaders are the only once deepthroating russian cock

[–] Crazazy@feddit.nl 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Baltics -> Balkan. Baltics is Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. They are also preparing for the worst though it's just that Serbia isn't part of it

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 hours ago

I know the difference. If i misstyped that is my fault. English isnt my native language and i am dislexic. In my native language the two regions couldnt be spelled any more different

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[–] yournamehere@lemm.ee 2 points 2 hours ago

LOL...yeah but the peace on their terms never aligns with the peace of the other side. so fuck russia and burn a tesla.

[–] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

I read a lot of news and thus is the first I'm hearing this

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 points 2 hours ago

We've always had a giant army. It just wasn't ours and we can't rely on it any more.

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