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I've seen many threads suggesting products but they often don't mention FOSS projects, which should always be preferred to corporate software. With FOSS you are already boycotting capitalism, on either side. Free and Open Source ignores borders and shouldn't be categorized in nationalist terms, no matter where some of the maintainers happen to live.

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[–] koncertejo@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 hour ago

I always like to say the fruits of FOSS labour are the common heritage of mankind. It belongs to all of us as a public good, created and maintained by selfless workers. (Nevermind the fact that most FOSS projects are based out of Europe anyways).

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 22 points 3 hours ago

Free software is the antithesis of capitalism. It doesn't make sense to boycott them.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 3 hours ago

Is someone doing that? If it's FOSS it's from the internet.

[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

There are some pretty corporate "open core" software companies tho, that's a more grey area

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 7 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I would think it depends on the project

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

Are there US open source projects?

There definitely are FOSS projects run by the US government: Ghidra is an open source reverse engineering tool developed by the NSA.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 hours ago

I don't know about that, to be honest.

I don't have any hard data to back me up, but anecdotally I find that most FOSS software I use is headquartered in Europe. Quite often Germany. There are many maintainers from all over the world, but I feel like (again...in my experience) Europe has always been bigger into starting such projects.

[–] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago

Use common sense. The nation isn't the only consideration.

[–] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml 26 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I'm the most anti-American user on here and I agree.

I'd rather use USA-linked free software than Spotify.

[–] reboot6675@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Wasn't Spotify Swedish tho? But yeah

[–] Ferk@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I think that's the point, he's saying he'd rather use USA-linked FOSS than non-USA proprietary software.

[–] chmod755@feddit.org 7 points 4 hours ago
[–] ksp@jlai.lu 17 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I get it as an European that it means more to me to consume "locally" and to prioritize services that are European-based. But due to the nature of computers and FOSS, borders are redefined and it is more about ideas and politics rather than physical location. However, computers and servers are also physical and submitted to legislations of countries, we cannot ignore laws such as the Patriot act and the power that the American state can have even on FOSS projects.

For me the priority is to use software that match my needs; if I have the choice between an American and an European solution, I'll tend to choose the latter one.

[–] DishonestBirb@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I canceled ongoing donations to several projects based in the US and stated that my reasons for doing so was US policy against my country. It doesn’t matter if the dev or project lead supports those policies or not, I refuse to contribute to the US economy if I can at all help it.

[–] ksp@jlai.lu 5 points 2 hours ago

I understand, but I am also thinking about the dev of those projects, as an individual who (probably) really despises the current US Gov, and even though they have to engage in the US economy, as they need to eat, pay bills, etc. It is a very tricky problem for those individuals and how to emancipate from. It is like with Russia where such individuals do not endorse at all the ongoing war but still live in that system 🤔

[–] fckreddit@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

If you are worried about US laws affecting FOSS projects, it can always be forked, perhaps even be rewritten.

[–] ksp@jlai.lu 2 points 2 hours ago

Of course, but what about the individual behind it, if it is someone who is also against their current government, while having to live in that country? It is tricky to ask how to reconcile the need for EU solutions while encouraging American citizens to fight against their system!

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago

I came into this thinking its more like "Oh no open sores is full of communists let me pay for worse software I never own" which is an argument that comes from the same camp as "this software I don't like is woke"

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Agree with the main point, though disagree that FOSS is "boycotting capitalism", many for-profit companies contribute to FOSS and FOSS can be used by for-profit companies too, much of today's capitalism runs on FOSS.

The point of free software is that it does not have owners, so what exactly are you "boycotting"?

[–] endofline@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Tell it to the Russian Linux devs that foss has no owners :-) Theory and practice are 2 different things

[–] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 5 hours ago

FOSS doesn't mean that you are entitled to a place at the table or that your contributions have to be accepted. Nothing prevents these Russian devs from continuing to to work on the kernel.

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 2 points 4 hours ago

They can fork it, if nobody wants to work with them anymore that's their problem

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 42 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Seeing people look for corporate social media alternatives is painful.

[–] MoonlightFox@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I agree, but am happy that X is losing users to Bluesky, so I don't try to convert friends and family from Bluesky to Masrodon. I'd rather they start changing other stuff instead that is easier.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 0 points 2 hours ago

Oh definitely, Bluesky is far better than twitter. Honestly, seeing the fediverse piss itself over bluesky is annoying, because the alternative is people still on twitter.

[–] chebra@mstdn.io 38 points 9 hours ago (13 children)

@Irelephant

> "Hey guys, I want to leave X, should I go to Bluesky or Threads? What? Mastodon? Never heard of that. Looks very complicated, I'll pass"
> -- CEO, founder, IT wizz on LinkedIn

Every time!

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[–] thericofactor@sh.itjust.works 58 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

From a purely "vote with your wallet" standpoint it doesn't make sense, because there's no money paid. However, one might worry about data/information getting in the hands of a fascist/compromised government. So I think people should judge this themselves case by case.

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