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[–] Jinx@lemmy.ca 9 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Don’t they mean $70 per week subscription, because.. why not!

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 2 points 2 hours ago

No, $70 is just for a three hour block. Stop being poor.

Because you own neither the towel, nor the land! It is provided for you, so the least you can do is pay for it! Because... Well... Wait, I'll get to it eventually... Hmm...

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Feudalism come back like crabgrass, because people who figure out how to benefit from it are far more motivated than those of us who just want to live. Pro tip: Rebrand it as Freedom!

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And that's why I only leave the house to find food

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 7 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 minutes ago

Housing costs double before you get home

[–] froh42@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I had been in the US for a few weeks last summer, it felt like this.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Everywhere wants a tip. It's insane to me.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Every time I go to the US, it feels like you're expected to tip pretty much every one you interact with. It gets old so fast.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 minutes ago

Stop interacting with people.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Why It's So Hard To Imagine Life After Capitalism by Second Thought

https://youtu.be/PaASqPnpq5Y

[–] Mic_Check_One_Two@reddthat.com 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The only critique I have is that there should have also been an iPad with a minimum 25% tip.

[–] moonbunny@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

Don’t forget the convenience charge, then there’s a booking fee, as well as payment processing fee to top it off

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

We have to stop depending on clumbsy corporate everything, local systems should be making all this inflation much slower.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 21 hours ago

b-b-but allowing each sector of the economy to coalesce into one giant corporation's ownership is... (pulls MBA notes out of ass)... the MoSt EfFiCiEnT UsE oF cApItAl!!

[–] Coolbeanschilly@lemmy.ca 61 points 2 days ago (6 children)

We're not living in capitalism, we're living in the mutant child version of it, corpo-kleptocracy.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 minutes ago

Whatever vision of Capitalism you're dreaming of, if it ever existed it would only be a temporary state. You cannot prevent end stage capitalism with reforms, only delay it.

Looks like we don't get another delay.

[–] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 day ago

Ackktuaally real capitalism has never been tried those were vanguard states

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

No. This is exactly what capitalism does. Make no excuse for it.

There is no "better" capitalism. The whole point of capitalism is unlimited, unchecked growth. Even if you contain it for a time and it's not so bad, it will work slowly (at first) to erode all safeguards. It will always become this.

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

thats just capitalism. weve seen it take this form over and over again now.

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[–] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 days ago (10 children)

Capitalism, like communism, looks good on paper. But humans suck, so any system will eventually be corrupted by those who seek power at the expense of others.

But yeah, the US was never truly capitalistic.

[–] darthelmet@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

There's a difference though. To the extent that a communist society fails in it's goals, it's because of people's failure to achieve them.

The problems with capitalism are inevitable consequences of the system. Competition is theoretically supposed to keep things in check, but that just doesn't really pass the smell test for real life. We essentially never have markets that work like the mythical economic model of many sellers and many buyers so that nobody can be a price setter. Plus, competitions are meant to be won. Companies aren't working to keep each other in the race. The goal is to drive out your competition and become a monopoly. Maybe there are brief periods where things stay competitive, but even small differences in success can compounded to further solidify your advantage, in turn making it easier to keep doing that. And that's just if everything started our fairly, which it obviously didn't.

Then there is the divide between capital and labor. In order for there to be wage workers, there must be a population of people who don't own what they need to keep themselves alive. Otherwise there wouldn't be capitalists, there would just be people using their own property to produce their own goods. And once we've established that this is a necessary part of capitalism, we have to acknowledge that workers wanting to be paid the most possible and to buy things for the cheapest possible is in direct opposition to the capitalist's need to pay workers as little as possible and sell their goods for as much as possible. This isn't some anomalously evil behavior, it's the kind of optimization required to be the winner in the market competition. So even if you had a benevolent capitalist who decided to pay more and sell for less, they would just lose to someone else who is actually playing to win. And thus in the long term, the system filters out this altruistic behavior as a natural consequence of it's mechanisms.

Furthermore, this need to divide capital from labor is in tension with the possibility that people could just take the stuff you're hoarding. Because if they have nothing, you have an abundance, and you're just one person, then it'd be the rational thing to do to take the stuff without having to work for you. Thus, in order for this divide between capital and labor to be maintained, there must be a concept of property rights that is enforced with some kind of organized violence, either by the state or by private security.

The other symptoms of capitalism naturally flow from these core principles.

  • Corporate capture of the political system? Aside from the state existing to enforce private property rights in the first place, the inequality created by the outcomes of competition and the capital/labor divide creates power imbalances that can be used to influence governments more than those with less power.

  • Climate change and environmental destruction due to over-consumption? You don't make money from selling less stuff or from paying for things you don't need to pay for. So you do things to induce demand like advertising, planned obsolescence, and influencing policy to kill green energy and public transportation, etc. There's no reason for a corporation, a profit maximizing machine, to do anything that wouldn't optimize it's profits. If it did anything else, it would lose to someone who did do that.

  • This meme: Privatization of public goods. If there is something you could make a profit from, a corporation must exploit that thing to maximize profits and win the competition. So there is an incentive to take things that aren't commodities and turn them into commodities. This is sort of related to the divide of labor and capital as well. In order to be able to sell people things, they need to not have those things and not have a means of acquiring those things outside of buying them from capitalists, which in turn means needing to work for capitalists. If you had adequate access to food, housing, water, clothing, and medical care, you'd have no reason to buy those things from capitalists and would therefore have way less of a reason to put up with working for them. So those things must be withheld. This is also part of why there has been a problem with loneliness and the destruction of communities. Communities support each other. If your friend is willing to drive you to the doctor (or better yet, if there's public transportation), you don't need to call a taxi/ride share. If someone is willing to help feed you when things are going bad, maybe you don't need to work another shift at some shitty job. If you have people you can enjoy socializing with by just talking or doing some free activity like taking a walk in the park, then maybe you don't spend money to buy as much entertainment as you would if you were alone. Maybe you don't have a social media account or don't spend a lot of time on it just so that you can get some kind of socializing.

These are all bad things done to us by bad people. But the problem isn't that the specific people in power happen to be bad and ruin what would otherwise be a good system. The bad people being in power is the inevitable end result of the system.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

People who do the "all systems are the same maaaaaaaan, humans just suck maaaaaan" should be forced to live as feudal peasents.

Humans don't suck, you just live under a system that conditions you to be apathetic and misanthropic.

[–] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago

Democracy hasn't worked all of the times it's been tried why even bother human nature capitalist realism no other way literally give up

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[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

"These gentlemen think that when they have changed the names of things they have changed the things themselves."

[–] MeaanBeaan@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I had to call Kaiser the other day to get a doctors note for work. Two second call where the guy asked me what I needed. I told him I needed a doctors note for stomach issues. No follow up questions. No medical advice. No attempt to find out what was going on or anything. Made up a doctors note for me and sent it to my inbox.

Two weeks later I get a $185 bill for "visiting their facilities".

[–] bigFab@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

When I feel a little sick in the morning, I text my boss from the bed, turn off the alarms and sleep all day. Finland.

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[–] perishthethought@lemm.ee 27 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I'm reading a book by Philip K. Dick ("Ubik"), where everything in the fictional future is coin operated: doors, toasters, showers, everything.

Feels like he either predicted this world we live in, or caused it.

[–] Prime_Minister_Keyes@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Amazing book, btw. Like one long fever dream.

[–] perishthethought@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

I'm like 3/4 of the way through it and yes. I'm surprised at all the turns it's taken already and just how floaty the characters are. Probably a lot of parallels with how I understand the author's life got in the 60s. ☮

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[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Rent: $1,500

Electric: $150

Internet: $100

Gas: $160

Food: $400

Phone: $60

Insurance: $166(per month over 6 months)

Total: $84 a day.

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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 26 points 2 days ago (16 children)

Posting this meme costs $10

This comment cost me $15

Reading this comment costs $2 per read

Anyone that responds to this comment will be billed $20

Thinking about this post later in the day will cost $1.95 per thought

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