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[–] tomjuggler@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Deepseek api is down today - probably a result of their viral success recently..

[–] Teknikal@eviltoast.org 1 points 1 day ago

I heard they are under ddos attack.

[–] Fiona@lemmy.blahaj.zone 95 points 2 days ago (16 children)

Anyone who thinks this was about getting AI working was the idiot from the start, there still isn’t even a real use-case for it. This was always about funneling huge amounts of money from the government budget to a bunch of rich assholes. The outcome doesn’t matter at all here.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago

there still isn’t even a real use-case for it

There are several real use cases for it, it's just that they're worth like ten bucks a month to me all together and OpenAI is running at a loss while charging... *checks notes* 200 dollars per month for their top tier model?

[–] taanegl@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago

Venture capitalists using the US gov as their new marketing platform is a joke in it self.

What's next? Is the next White House briefing gonna be in a stadium, with laser show, motivational music and some ponce going on stage to hype people up?

Griftonomics has reached the upper levels, y'all.

[–] labbbb2@thelemmy.club 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why is there no real use-case for it? But what about disinformation?

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago

And making starving artists’ lives even more unlivable. And taking human creativity and joy from humans.

While destroying the environment. It’s so efficient.

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 15 points 2 days ago

Exactly. Just look at Intel and the CHIPS Act.

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[–] Embarrassingskidmark@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Of course it's faster & cheaper when it's being censored & can't access half of human history because the fucking ccp finds it offensive.

[–] humble_pete_digger@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As opposed to reddit censoring Israel genociding Palestine and Luigi ?

Reddit is total trash too.

[–] raker@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

The model itself is probably not censored. The censorship comes on top. Preliminary tests already show how this can be circumvented.

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If censorship would make it cheaper then surely it wouldn't be that much cheaper than OpenAI. Different things are being censored and blocked but surely, your suggestion is a bit silly.

[–] Embarrassingskidmark@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Your comment is a bit silly. The CCP engages in currency manipulation amongst other nefarious actions to prop up its interests. It was likely created from stolen data & heavily propped up by the government, just like various other projects that were supposedly Chinese "innovations" but looks remarkably like their western competitors.

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[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"Necessity is the mother of invention."

What you're likely seeing here is innovation similar to the early tech sector. The hardware limitation (no Nvidia chips) means different (usually more complex) solutions are needed.

These solutions usually require a deep understanding of a specific area of mathematics, and expertise in coding. The person making it normally has to be heavily invested, since it still eats a lot of hours.

I often joke, the mathematician who finds a faster algorithm for matrix operations is sitting on a billion dollar idea.

[–] Isthisreddit@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And that mathematician won't see the profits for that faster algorithm and you will never hear their name - shits been happening in tech for decades

[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

As a mathematician who has worked in tech, this I am very much aware of XD

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 167 points 3 days ago (2 children)

most of that 'hundreds of billions' isn't going to go towards the tech or infrastructure, it's gonna go to people. a very small number of specific individuals.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 44 points 3 days ago (7 children)

correct, US taxpayer is being fleeced so some parasites can live their best lives.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Incorrect. They can already do that without more money.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

But then none of them will get to claim that he’s the first trillionaire.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

correct.

hell, i could live my 'best' life off of musk's 'sofa cushion' money:

$2.5m is more than enough for me to live on just using investment proceeds--in perpetuity.

$2.5m to him (with ~ $436b) is the equivalent of fifty-seven cents to someone with $100k (in the bank, investments, retirement, home equity, etc). now, i don't have $100k, not even close. just using it as an example here. my equivalent would be more like half a cent.

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[–] conicalscientist@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Yeah obviously we've completely lost the plot a long time ago. Nobody even remembers when tech was bands of ragtag nerds making something out of nothing. Now they are the rich whose only purpose to is extract more wealth. Tech what? Who even knows anymore.

That includes the average tech workers. If that angers you then you're lost too.

Nobody has noticed that there's more bragging about compensation than accomplishments. It used to be the other way around. Nerds eagerly showing off to anyone who will listen about whatever thing they cooked up. It's been this way for the past long time long before this LLM AI era.

[–] ansiz@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

It's because this wave of tech overlords rode in on the coattails of the actual smart group. No one in this new group has actual built/coded/designed anything good. Everything they actual get involved with is garbage. Musk Cyber truck and Zuck metaverse as two examples. Bezos isn't even the CEO of Amazon anymore, and he had pretty much be letting Andy Jassy run AWS/Amazon for close to 2 decades anyway.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, give me a /technology/ sub that speaks about technology (have you heard about the esp-8266? Did you know a A4988 can steer a NEMA from a Raspberry pi? And even The 6 gen SSD can move X GB/s, what is the fastest quad core under 100$?) and not about funding and drama.

Or am I out of touch with reality :-) ?

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Shameless self promotion:

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We of course focus on hardware and do include tech-adjacent business/public policy news, but we do cover ESP8266, PCI-E 6 development and that recently released ~$100 AMD CPU.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Subbed (Or what ever is the Lemmy equivalent)!

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 113 points 3 days ago (4 children)

It is beautiful how the US is never short on cash for state aid to enrich some owners.

But god forbid plebs ask for a good train, that's communism!

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 35 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Socialism for giant corporations: 😎🦅🇺🇸

Socialism for common people: 😡🚫🤷‍♂️

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[–] just_an_average_joe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 75 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Guys listen up, every deepseek model comes with a dedicated chinese spy, who will log all your data and send it back to CCP who will use it to plot the destruction of the western civilization.

Instead we should use Freedom© models from OpenAI (side note if deepseek is so "open" how come they don't have open in their name huh?) even if OpenAI don't show their reasoning, they only do this cuz they want to protect us and they stand for our values.

They cost 100x more only because they are fighting for our Freedom and Freedom doesn't come cheap, Freedom doesn't have a price, Freedom requires our sacrifice.

[–] demonsword@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

every deepseek model comes with a dedicated chinese spy, who will log all your data and send it back to CCP who will use it to plot the destruction of the western civilization

there's no need, western civilization is collapsing by itself

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago (2 children)

use it to plot the destruction of the western civilization

Peaks around at the state of Western Civilization

Boots up another copy of DeepSeek

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[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

First paragraph is something I believe some people will say unironically.

[–] keegomatic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Well, that first paragraph is likely to be unironically very close to the truth.

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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 74 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The US is getting owned by China left and right, but sure lets focus on abusing minorities, women, LGBTQ+, and the poor instead of investing on actually making America great. Whatever.

[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored [gay, trans, Hispanic, etc ] man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

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