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[–] son_named_bort@lemmy.world 143 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Telemarketer should've been number 1.

[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 33 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Haven't you noticed? People love to be advertised at these days.

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[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 85 points 4 days ago (10 children)

You can tell this is a poll of what people perceive to be the important jobs because doctor is #1. The most important jobs by sector in order of importance for developed nations is

  1. power supply- we all need electricity and few of us have the ability to generate it ourselves

  2. water supply- getting enough clean water for your day to cook and wash is a near full time job. For Americans a gallon of water is roughly 8lbs and your average toilet uses 3-5 gallons per flush. It would take much of the day to get and purify the water you use

  3. sanitation workers- this the poll got right. The folks collecting waste do more directly for public health than most doctors could hope to do.

[–] knexcar@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

your average toilet uses 3-5 gallons per flush

I’m pretty sure toilets generally use 1.6 gallons per flush, and that’s a legal mandate.

Source: used to have an autistic obsession with them.

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm honestly surprised that cleaner and garbage collector are as high up there on the list as they are because those seem to be jobs that society generally looks down on.

At least the graphic has that going for it.

[–] candybrie@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

Wonder if it was a poll during 2020. COVID really highlighted cleaners' jobs as essential.

[–] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I wonder if doctors get elevated on these polls because people feel like it is a more unattainable skill.

I would imagine a lot of people (falsely) assume that it would be easy to plop people into power plants to keep them running, but harder to replace doctors.

My completely unknowledgeable take is that if we had to pick and choose people for the post apocalypse job hunt, we would want way more mechanics and engineers than doctors. Doctors need a lot of hard to obtain stuff to do the most doctor-ey part of their jobs, and if we aren't worried about laws and regulations, then we don't need them for things like prescriptions.

Most of what they would be needed for in that scenario to me seems like emergency care, like first aid, which you don't really need all the superfluous med school training for.

Meanwhile, the hydroelectric dam that the new post apocalypse group is forming at needs a lot of varied disciplines and specialties just to keep it running.

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[–] 96VXb9ktTjFnRi@feddit.nl 8 points 4 days ago

What about the least essential?

  1. Tax consultants - helping companies avoid contributing to society
  2. Marketeers - manipulating people into buying worse products for higher prices
  3. Middle management - causing a lot of fuzz while doing nothing of significance.

Just to name a few. An artists contribution may be abstract but it's certainly there. There are others that actively sabotage society and very often they make a lot of money.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (3 children)

For modern society, sure. For foundational society, you don't have any societies without Farmers, Educators, and some sort of doctor.

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[–] teegus@sh.itjust.works 89 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Art is important for people's well being, which is important for essential workers' ability to work. Weird thst artists are considered less essential than telemarketers.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 45 points 4 days ago

I recall watching a singer saying something like the following during an interview "If art and culture are so worthless, return all the time you spent watching movies and series, return all the time you spent listening to music, all the poems and lyrics you sang with friends or to loved ones. I won't ask you to return the stories you read because it's clear you don't read."

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 18 points 4 days ago

I can possibly see an argument that "artist" isn't an essential job because people make loads of art when it's not their job anyway. Nobody's doing telemarketing as their hobby

However I very much doubt that this was the actual context for whatever this graphic was trying to show

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[–] Magister@lemmy.world 59 points 4 days ago (1 children)

non-essential jobs is about everyone with a MBA

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[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 37 points 4 days ago (14 children)

Always remember, music is also art. Now imagine a world where theres no music. You can't listen to anything while driving, riding the bus, going shopping etc.

[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (6 children)

You can listen to things while driving, but it is either NPR, talk radio, or church sermons.

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[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago

Plot twist: Graph was mad with AI

[–] postnataldrip@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Guessing this might be non-essential workers as per covid lockdowns, ie how important it is for them to attend a workplace in person, but it's definitely funnier if it is a ranked list of perceived importance to society, so let's go with that

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

Its right about telemarketing

[–] BlueLineBae@midwest.social 32 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I used to think this was true while working for a B2B company as a graphic designer. Everything just seemed pointless like I wasn't contributing anything meaningful to the world. But I do think that art in its many forms contributes meaningfully to culture in general and can also be quite powerful when used well. History of graphic design shows just how influential designs were in Nazi Germany and how similar techniques are still used today. Then there is the matter of UI design and how it's increasingly become essential today. While most applications it's fine to have a frustrating piece of garbage, UI is rather important for things like medical systems, car displays, and other areas where getting it wrong could mean life or death. Unfortunately my job is still pretty useless to society regardless of these points made. I'll go back to my corner now.

[–] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I used to think this was true while working for a B2B company as a graphic designer. Everything just seemed pointless like I wasn’t contributing anything meaningful to the world.

You could say similar things about company doctors that just try to get people back to work without caring for their wellbeing. Companies do not necessarily bring out the best possible use of skills.

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[–] Shard@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago (2 children)

A quick image search returned this

https://mothership.sg/2020/06/milieu-survey-sunday-times-essential/

So many commenters are missing crucial context to this infographic.

This was released during peak covid and I mean PEAK as in June 2020, global lockdowns, high mortality rates, shortages of essentials. In case anyone has a short memory, the world as we knew it practically ground to a halt.

Not to take away anything from artists but essential in this context meant essential to the basic human needs. Health, Nutrition, Sanitation.

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[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 25 points 4 days ago
[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago (12 children)

Without art, what's the meaning?

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 44 points 4 days ago

Shareholder value

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[–] HollowNaught@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

They were probably asked an open ended question. Artist is likely the most common answer given due to the simple fact that more people can think of that job compared to PR manager when asked

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I know they meant painter but graphic designer is probably one of the most important jobs if we’re talking about business. A company without some sort of graphic is dead in the water.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Project Manager was #1 but they told the artist it didn't fit the scope.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

the 23% of people who didn't vote for garbage collector... Are they hoarders?

[–] Jolteon@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

They're the people who just haul their own trash to the dump.

[–] Haaveilija@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago (2 children)

But what about telephone sanitisers, account executives, hairdressers, tired TV producers, insurance salesmen, personnel officers, security guards, public relations executives, and management consultants?

[–] Hackworth@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Is this the list from Hitchhiker's Guide?

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[–] NocturnalEngineer@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Sorry, why is cleaner #2 in the list?

Farmers, Engineers, Police/Fire/Ambulance, Teachers, etc...

[–] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (9 children)

Except for farmers humanity has gone quite a long time without them

Edit to clear up confusion about the wording: I meant that we need farmers, the rest not so much

Only in the professional sense, medicine and engineering as concepts of let's not have these people die of what we know to be preventable has been around a lot longer than agriculture.

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[–] TorJansson@lemm.ee 9 points 4 days ago

Artist? I think the job was passed off to the first person passing the bosses desk.

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 9 points 4 days ago

Add health insurance CEO to the top of the non-essential jobs list.

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