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I saw a post that talked about racism towards people and when I talked about it the response I got was very heated and a person even called lemmy.world a community of 'hitlerites'

I have been around for a week or so and this is my first time seeing such explicit vulgar reaction towards another community, is this a one-off or should I block hexbear?

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[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 1 points 52 minutes ago

You should block hexbear

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 20 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Hexbear, lemmygrad and (in great part) lemmy.ml are tankie instances.

They basically deny any crimes of Stalin, Mao etc…

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 13 points 5 hours ago

Wow, I was wondering why I hadn't blocked a single hexbear or lemmy.ml user here: my instance did it for me! I've had multiple accounts on multiple servers and consistently had to block hexbear users until finally blocking hexbear outright. It's been a much better experience then.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

"Anyone right of me is Hitler" sounds pretty on point for them. Instance block and move on with your day.

[–] Soulifix@kbin.melroy.org -1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

From what I gather - a group of assholes. They're an asshole instance, just like lemm.ee (from experience) and sh.it.just.works (from experience).

[–] kaprap@leminal.space 1 points 45 minutes ago (1 children)
[–] gravityowl@lemm.ee 1 points 12 minutes ago* (last edited 12 minutes ago)

Do you like/care for politics?

You could literally just go to their community and have a look for yourself too and decide whether or not it's your vibe

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 93 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

TLDR: they are right-wingers pretending to be left wing

[–] SatyrSack@feddit.org 2 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

What does the Y axis represent here?

The amount of mental gymnastics being done to justify their ideology

[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

Separation from reality, maybe?

[–] weeeeum@lemmy.world 24 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I love this image. Something that always confused me is that they are communist, but support russia? An extremely far right government?

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 21 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Authoritarians like authoritarian regimes. They'll perform extreme mental gymnastics to reconcile their preconceived notions with reality, like the tankies that declare China to be socialist. Also, most of them see the US as the Great Satan that is responsible for any and all evil in the world. Therefore anybody who opposes the Great Satan must be good.

[–] letsgo@lemm.ee 1 points 19 minutes ago

I can't help but wonder if tankies are the political equivalent of flat-earthers. I should probably ask that on NSQ some time, when I can figure out a way of asking that won't get me banned.

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 0 points 4 hours ago

haha love that

[–] droporain@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 5 hours ago

Bend the far right and tankies closer to the center dot.

[–] archonet@lemy.lol 32 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

block hexbear, lemmygrad, and lemmy.ml. And any user named "UniversalMonk" on any instance. You'll thank me later.

[–] gi1242@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

my first account was on lemmy.ml because it was one of the top options on one of the apps I used. it stopped working with jerboa which why I switched to lemmy.world...

[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 19 points 7 hours ago

I'd probably be more selective about blocking users from lemmy.ml, but I'm a bit biased in the question given the server I chose when I joined Lemmy

[–] Sidyctism2@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 7 hours ago

Gotta catch'em all

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 14 points 7 hours ago

I'm sorry u had to experience these extremists. Block the instance and forget about them.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 36 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Hexbear, lemmygrad.ml and lemmy.ml are the "Tankie Triad".

Hexbear is the worst most extreme of them and lemmy.ml is the least which is why they've managed to avoid getting defederated from world (either that or because they're like the third largest instance behind only .world and SJW)

Hexbear is pretty widely defederated

[–] Pipster@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

A lot of .ml users and communities are there just because it was the only big instance much earlier on. I'm in no way a tankie but still use .ml a lot (a community I run is on there) because it was the first one I made and i'm too lazy to look into new instances or switch.

[–] tgxn@lemmy.tgxn.net 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

yeah the other two I definately agree with, but lemmy.ml is mostly tame.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 1 points 28 minutes ago

It's all under the surface, the admins, mods and a good portion of users have just as extreme viewpoints, but tend to walk the line quite carefully to avoid being defederated by .world

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

All I heard of before is that lemmygrad is more "extreme" than hexbear? My instance defederates from lemmygrad, but federates with hexbear, I don't know the exact reason for this though.

[–] Ofiuco@lemmy.cafe 1 points 8 minutes ago

I was in an instance that was like that, but since they even made a post justifying their stance on keeping the federation with hex, I just jumped ship.
Not having to deal with ml, grad and hex is so much better.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 1 points 30 minutes ago

Huh yea that's kinda weird, but it's also fairly subjective or perhaps your instance admins "straw that broke the camels back" just happened to be coming from lemmygrad at the time. But still weird to defederate from one and not the other regardless of which one was first lol

[–] DosDude@retrolemmy.com 40 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I would block hexbear. I've done it server-wide. They are mostly very loud trolls pretending to be communists. Some could be actual communists, but I don't buy anyone actually wanting to be in such a toxic environment and believe what they claim to believe.

[–] Ofiuco@lemmy.cafe 2 points 14 minutes ago

To add to your comment: Blocking the instance at user level is pointless, it only blocks their posts,not their users, so you still have to deal with their bullshit and they post their propaganda at every instance that tolerates them so it makes its way to those who blocked it anyway.
The only solution is to defederate.

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 14 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Tankies, mostly. They're on my blocklist,but managed to avoid it for a disgustingly long time; they do have some good content from time to time, but in the end seeing the repeated vitriol and genocide denialism simply wasn't worth it.

[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 12 points 7 hours ago

Yeah I think a lot of Lemmings tried to give them a chance when we first joined, because we are pretty left leaning already so we figured communists couldn't be that bad. Unfortunately, they're actually far more moronic and toxic than anyone could possibly imagine.

I used to recommend for people to make up their own mind whether to block them, but I now feel it's better to block them immediately, because they're really just the worst kind of people who will do anything to bring others down to their level of misery.

[–] kaprap@leminal.space 27 points 10 hours ago (5 children)

I'm sorry if I sound tone deaf I am new to Lemmy .~.

[–] Sciaphobia@lemm.ee 3 points 3 hours ago

I nearly left lemmy because of Hexbear. Learning they could be blocked salvaged the platform for me. It's not just you - they are pretty widely reviled.

[–] itsnicodegallo@lemm.ee 7 points 5 hours ago

Howdy! Can confirm that most people and places I've seen on the Fediverse are lovely... Except Hexbear. They're one wall of cognitive dissonance away from being right wingers and constantly complaining that liberals are all lying to themselves about their liberalism. That THEY are the TRUE left wingers.

[–] Maiq@lemy.lol 25 points 9 hours ago

Welcome to lemmy! For the most part lemmy is nice place to be. You will still we the occasional crazy though. Defiantly not something you see all the time. If you find a user, community or instance popping off a bunch of crazy the best thing to do is block them. You won't be missing anything without them.

[–] Libb@jlai.lu 18 points 9 hours ago

Welcome and there is zero need to apologize. Some people (and group of them) can be a real pain. Once you have learned how to filter them out, it's a nice place with nice people. There is no shame in blocking them, a bit like I would not let someone enter my home so they shout their nonsense into my ears, or make their mess on the carpet.

Once again, welcome ;)

[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 4 points 9 hours ago
[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 11 points 9 hours ago

Yes, you should definitely block Hexbear. They're a toxic, angry group of people, who have no intention of ever engaging in good faith.

[–] CaptainBasculin@lemmy.ml 13 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Hexbear is a different instance where its users are basically a group of hard communism supporters. If you disliked their behavior, feel free to block their instance.

[–] Foni@lemm.ee 18 points 9 hours ago

They are not only hard communists, they have 0 interest in propagating their ideas, they only insult and despise everyone who is not 100% in agreement with them. In the best case, and I don't think it is, it is an endogamous community only for themselves, the opposite of what a federated social network is

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

Hexbear.net, lemmy.ml and Lemmygrad.ml have a lot of extreme leftists who have very wild takes that could be mistaken for right wing takes.

I personally don't recommend blocking them because outside of political threads they make up a lot of the content/memes/discussions, but up to you if you want to try that out.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

they make up a lot of the content/memes/discussions

Shouldn't be "rewarding" them with content/activity, they only have like 2 or 3 communities that crack the top 20 in MAUs these days anyways. And they're all .ml

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I've blocked all 3, I see comments from them but not posts.

Most of the communities are are slowly moving away anyway, given how many users don't want to engage with the instance at all.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 10 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

There's honestly a lot of high quality posts on lemmy.ml. Maybe some from Hexbear if you're into leftist niches like veganism

[–] archonet@lemy.lol 4 points 8 hours ago

Sure, but that content could go elsewhere where you can actually criticize China without catching a ban. And if those communities choose not to, that's their problem when more and more people decide to block their instance as not worth dealing with.

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