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[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 34 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

certified "have you tried working on your inner self" moment.

Explanation: sometimes, mental health problems don't only come from internal misfits, but simply from enormous pressure from the environment. (such as in my case.) it's important to take care of externalities, not just seek the problem within yourself.

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This post is making fun of people who think they're fixing their life by having "epiphanies" after taking magic mushrooms multiple times a week and then not doing anything about those epiphanies when they're sober.

Source: I used to do that

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

You’ll see it in trust fund kids back from festivals. They learn that other humans have feelings, which is really mind blowing, but as far as changing behavior in any way…

[–] GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

"Your life isn't shitty, the System that we live our lives in is"

  • Wayne Gretzki

    • Michael Scott

    -Anonymous

[–] KuroiKaze@lemmy.world 64 points 4 days ago (6 children)

For anyone who's struggling, I just want you to know that I basically permanently cured my depression, the semi-powerful mushroom trip. During the trip essentially took a side step left in my brain that didn't fix my problems but fixed the way that I perceived them and how I tackle them. It has since been about 4 years since that trip and the effect s on my attitude and personality have been long lasting. I will say as a word of caution that my attachment to traditional capitalism and some other more normal things in life has definitely waned but I still make my payments and stuff without incident but I just care less. This shit should not be illegal especially compared to alcohol and cigarettes.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Ingesting this substance can lead to deep thinking about the morality of our economic, political, and social systems, as you noted. That is exactly why they are illegal.

They help massively with my depression too, although I feel I need to take them 2-4 times each year to keep the effect. If anyone is considering taking them for their mental health, the most important things to do are take them in a place you feel safe, with a person or people you trust. I recommend stopping all mental health medication for three days before you take them. If you cannot handle going without medication for three days you probably shouldn't take mushrooms.

I also recommend taking an eighth of a dry ounce. You can increase the dose next time. Anything less is essentially microdosing, unless you weigh 100 pounds or something.

Oh and you develop near immediate immunity to the mental effects of psilocybin. Don't think you can eat half now then eat half later. The second half won't work. In fact you'll be highly resistant to them for a couple of weeks at least. This is a blessing because you can't get addicted!

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Note that mushrooms or other drugs acting on the serotonin system like LSD, DMT or MDMA must absolutely not be taken while also taking SSRIs or MAOs. It risks inducing a Serotonine Syndrom, which can easily be fatal.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

This is important to note although I think it's extremely rare with LSD, DMT, or Psilocybin. More common with MDMA.

So yeah just another reason to quit taking your mental health medication three days before. I do not recommend taking them if you are on an SSRI or MAOI, just as this person pointed out.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago

Yeah. Psychedelics aren't the work, but they may very well change how the work goes.

But try reading about your issues and how to resolve them first. Acid pointed a mirror at my face and told me how I was fucking up, but understanding psychological concepts told me how to do better.

[–] polle@feddit.org 11 points 4 days ago (9 children)

Recommending an unsupervised mushroom trip to cure depression to random people is just reckless.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (3 children)

People get drunk all the time and they're way more likely to be victimized or hurt.

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[–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 11 points 4 days ago (13 children)

For me my bad trip basically gave me ptsd ten years ago. I was prone to getting panic attacks though.

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[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

sadly my friend, within your comment is the reason why it's illegal - if people universally cared less about money, there wouldn't be enough people to steal labour from :(

well, it started with the fact they had to arrest the hippies for something, god forbid people care enough about the lives of brown foreigners strongly enough to protest their country killing them. looks bad to arrest those wanting peace so, arrest them for having a drug that makes them more compassionate!

[–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I don't know, man, it's always annoying whenever these subjects come up, and the capitalist goblin pulling levers behind a curtain is invoked.

It is the very people themselves who are scared shitless of anything that actually works this powerfully.
It's either complex evil above or cowardly, lazy ignorance horizontally around you. Which is Occam's Razor?

"We foresee that this substance might liberate the population's minds and threaten us robber barons!" sounds too tidy a narrative, and it is attractive, as it puts blame squarely on the shoulders of The Other. It is, however, as flat and simple and false as "both parties are the same".

Do you know why capitalism is so powerful? Because it gives us what we want. And we suck. There's no hidden pure angel inside of us waiting to be freed fully formed if they just leave us alone, there's a lot of inner work to be done, and we suck at it, we don't wanna do it. We are also a myopic species.

[–] TheBluePillock@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

It's the truth. Former domestic policy chief for the Nixon White House, John Ehrlichman, spoke out about it years after the fact:

“You understand what I’m saying? We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin. And then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities,” Ehrlichman said. “We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.”

Psychedelics were criminalized in the US to target anti-war protesters. This is in the open and on the record, but they're still classified as a Schedule I drug: no currently accepted medical use and a high potential for abuse. Neither of those things are true. It's completely fucked up.

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[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I usually have a strong trip about once a year. It's definitely not for everyone though. For me, it ablates habitual mental patterns and understandings. Almost everything turns symbolic that is thrust from the subconscious whether I'm ready for it or not. It's something that everyone should have access to if you're willing to open up to yourself.

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[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago
[–] HootinNHollerin@slrpnk.net 54 points 4 days ago

Oh damn shots fired 😂😳

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

I don't wanna
You can't make me

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah, inner work was my intention last time I tripped, but instead I ended up vegging out and getting annoyed at my trip mates. It was a waste of time and materials.

I don't know if there will be a next time to try to do better.

[–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 30 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I thought I could just bury my problems under a truckload of christmas cookies.

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago (3 children)

That's precisely what those outings are for...

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I've also heard it called a Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster.

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Similar to the gin and tonic notion:

It is a curious fact, and one to which no-one knows quite how much importance to attach, that something like 85 percent of all known worlds in the Galaxy, be they primitive or highly advanced, have invented a drink called jynnan tonyx, or gee-N'N-T'N-ix, or jinond-o-nicks, or any one of a thousand variations on this phonetic theme. The drinks themselves are not the same, and vary between the Sivolvian 'chinanto/mnigs' which is ordinary water served just above room temperature, and the Gagrakackan 'tzjin-anthony-ks' which kills cows at a hundred paces; and in fact the only one common factor between all of them, beyond the fact that their names sound the same, is that they were all invented and named before the worlds concerned made contact with any other worlds.

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[–] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago (3 children)
[–] felsiq@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 days ago

You’ve become what you were sworn to destroy 😭

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Worked for Elon Musk! His endless K-hole is working out just gangbusters.

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)
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