Imagine breaking a treaty, invading a country, starting a war, using cluster bombs and then getting angry at the other guy for defending his country with cluster bombs.
this post was submitted on 22 Jul 2023
44 points (92.3% liked)
World News
31550 readers
586 users here now
News from around the world!
Rules:
-
Please only post links to actual news sources, no tabloid sites, etc
-
No NSFW content
-
No hate speech, bigotry, propaganda, etc
founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS
Crocodile tears
The Tankies here are hilarious.
The "reporter" worked for RIA, a state-owned news agency. He was a propagandist, not a reporter.
There's no evidence he was killed by cluster munitions beyond Russia's statement. We've seen the accuracy of those from the beginning.
This is a consequence of Russia's own actions. They're to blame for all of this.
I see one comment kind of supporting the Russian reporter, and only about the tone of the comments. That's it. I really don't see anyone in this comment section really supporting Russia here.
I 100% agree that this is Russia's own fault. Don't put non-soldiers next to soldiers actively fighting in a war, because there's a good chance they'll be hit by enemy munitions.
There's one commenter defending Russia. It's more anti-Ukraine and implying Russia's innocence (saying they COULD do the same when they already do so much worse).
But it's really just the one posting a bunch.
They found a copy of Sims 3 along with a letter signed "Illegible" near the body so it had to be the Ukrainians.
Even if he was killed by cluster bombs, so what? He's a Russian on Ukraine soil. That doesn't make him a combatant per she, but it doesn't make him a innocent bystander either.
Regardless of the situation, a reporter mixed in with enemy combatants isn't going to get special protections.
Sorry... just for the record - why was there a Russian war reporter in Ukraine again? Could it perhaps have anything to do with that war Russia caused in Ukraine? Someone please jog my memory for me.
"You're not allowed to attack us if we have a journalist with us. That's the rules. Now don't mind us while we use civilians as target practice." - Russia
Aww poor babies. Where was their outrage when Ukrainian civilians were killed by Russia's use of cluster bombs?
Come on now, let's be fair: I'm sure Russian military has killed plenty of journalists too!
Heck, bet he wasn’t even killed by US cluster bombs. Just propaganda.
Reporters in Russia are propagandists. There is no press freedom in that country, so if you work as a reporter, you are not fulfilling the role of a journalist, but a state sanctioned propagandist.
A Russian reporter in Ukraine might as well be a part of the armed forces.
I don't see why a Russian "journalist" needs to be anywhere near the action, it's not like accurate reporting is expected...
Chances are he was shot the back of the head with a Tokarev and they blamed the cluster bombs.
Russian telegram channels reported without proof the death may be attributed to the way they conduct a documentation.
They group up with multiple other people, including soldiers, and stay as a group continuously. This is to control that nothing gets shown which should not be visible and have a tight control.
Apart from the lacking proof I am sceptical this would be required as this news agency is under full Kremlin control, but rational reasoning isn't required for this authoritarian government.
Then fucking leave Russia. Stop hurting yourself for no reason.
Oh no, the consequences of my actions!
Oh no…. Anyway.
These misanthropic comments are disgusting.
CNN* is an obvious US propaganda channel and yet we were all outraged when WikiLeaks revealed that US helicopter pilots gunned down fucking journalists in Iraq.
There are few rules in war.
You do not attack hospitals, first aid responders and journalists, for fucks sake. I don't give a fuck whose "side" this journalist belongs to. They are there to provide information of a battle field that would otherwise be lost.
When Russia attacked a hospital some time in 2022 after the war started, I was disgusted.
What has happened to you people. wtf.
- this is an example. I am not trying to bring a "muh but US is doing propaganda too" bullshit take in here.
Rules in war? This entire war is already illegal. Russia shouldn't even be in Ukraine in the first place. And yes, if you're a frontline reporter, then it might happen that you end up in the crossfire, especially from artillery fire. Or do you think Ukraine saw some reporter through their drones and decided to target them? Stop being an apologist for Russia's aggression.
Edit: Also, Russia does not even have a free press, and with that they don't actually have reporters, but propagandists.
Could you name me a legal war? What kind of contract is there to sign for a war?
Keep finding excuses for your rashist ideology.
Ad hominem, how creative.
AFAIK he was standing right next to an MRLS shooting at the Ukrainian forces, and the Ukrainian forces shot back.
And I'm talking about desensitized comments almost cheering for and ridiculing the death of a Russian journalist (or evil propagandis, which makes it a-ok). Journalists know what they're signing up for when reporting out of war zones. It happens.
You still don't need to fucking be glib about it. That's all. I'm out of this discussion. You're all lost.
A reporter died? Russia’s just mad some else stole their kill.
Not surprising, both side had been using cluster bomb from the beginning.