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[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Imagine breaking a treaty, invading a country, starting a war, using cluster bombs and then getting angry at the other guy for defending his country with cluster bombs.

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Crocodile tears

[–] flying_monkies@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The Tankies here are hilarious.

The "reporter" worked for RIA, a state-owned news agency. He was a propagandist, not a reporter.

There's no evidence he was killed by cluster munitions beyond Russia's statement. We've seen the accuracy of those from the beginning.

This is a consequence of Russia's own actions. They're to blame for all of this.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I see one comment kind of supporting the Russian reporter, and only about the tone of the comments. That's it. I really don't see anyone in this comment section really supporting Russia here.

I 100% agree that this is Russia's own fault. Don't put non-soldiers next to soldiers actively fighting in a war, because there's a good chance they'll be hit by enemy munitions.

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There's one commenter defending Russia. It's more anti-Ukraine and implying Russia's innocence (saying they COULD do the same when they already do so much worse).

But it's really just the one posting a bunch.

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago

They found a copy of Sims 3 along with a letter signed "Illegible" near the body so it had to be the Ukrainians.

[–] ashok36@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even if he was killed by cluster bombs, so what? He's a Russian on Ukraine soil. That doesn't make him a combatant per she, but it doesn't make him a innocent bystander either.

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Regardless of the situation, a reporter mixed in with enemy combatants isn't going to get special protections.

[–] Goret@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 1 year ago

.. but has no problem having snipers targeting UK journalists ..

UK jounalist ambushed

[–] masquenox@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago

Sorry... just for the record - why was there a Russian war reporter in Ukraine again? Could it perhaps have anything to do with that war Russia caused in Ukraine? Someone please jog my memory for me.

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

"You're not allowed to attack us if we have a journalist with us. That's the rules. Now don't mind us while we use civilians as target practice." - Russia

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Aww poor babies. Where was their outrage when Ukrainian civilians were killed by Russia's use of cluster bombs?

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Come on now, let's be fair: I'm sure Russian military has killed plenty of journalists too!

[–] derf82@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Heck, bet he wasn’t even killed by US cluster bombs. Just propaganda.

[–] Spacebar@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reporters in Russia are propagandists. There is no press freedom in that country, so if you work as a reporter, you are not fulfilling the role of a journalist, but a state sanctioned propagandist.

A Russian reporter in Ukraine might as well be a part of the armed forces.

I don't see why a Russian "journalist" needs to be anywhere near the action, it's not like accurate reporting is expected...

[–] luffyuk@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago
[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Chances are he was shot the back of the head with a Tokarev and they blamed the cluster bombs.

[–] Aurix@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Russian telegram channels reported without proof the death may be attributed to the way they conduct a documentation.

They group up with multiple other people, including soldiers, and stay as a group continuously. This is to control that nothing gets shown which should not be visible and have a tight control.

Apart from the lacking proof I am sceptical this would be required as this news agency is under full Kremlin control, but rational reasoning isn't required for this authoritarian government.

[–] PenguinJuice@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Then fucking leave Russia. Stop hurting yourself for no reason.

[–] atlasraven31@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Oh no, the consequences of my actions!

[–] d4rknusw1ld@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Oh no…. Anyway.

[–] zephyrvs@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

These misanthropic comments are disgusting.

CNN* is an obvious US propaganda channel and yet we were all outraged when WikiLeaks revealed that US helicopter pilots gunned down fucking journalists in Iraq.

There are few rules in war.

You do not attack hospitals, first aid responders and journalists, for fucks sake. I don't give a fuck whose "side" this journalist belongs to. They are there to provide information of a battle field that would otherwise be lost.

When Russia attacked a hospital some time in 2022 after the war started, I was disgusted.

What has happened to you people. wtf.

  • this is an example. I am not trying to bring a "muh but US is doing propaganda too" bullshit take in here.
[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Rules in war? This entire war is already illegal. Russia shouldn't even be in Ukraine in the first place. And yes, if you're a frontline reporter, then it might happen that you end up in the crossfire, especially from artillery fire. Or do you think Ukraine saw some reporter through their drones and decided to target them? Stop being an apologist for Russia's aggression.

Edit: Also, Russia does not even have a free press, and with that they don't actually have reporters, but propagandists.

[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Could you name me a legal war? What kind of contract is there to sign for a war?

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Keep finding excuses for your rashist ideology.

[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Ad hominem, how creative.

[–] iopq@latte.isnot.coffee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

AFAIK he was standing right next to an MRLS shooting at the Ukrainian forces, and the Ukrainian forces shot back.

[–] zephyrvs@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 year ago

And I'm talking about desensitized comments almost cheering for and ridiculing the death of a Russian journalist (or evil propagandis, which makes it a-ok). Journalists know what they're signing up for when reporting out of war zones. It happens.

You still don't need to fucking be glib about it. That's all. I'm out of this discussion. You're all lost.

[–] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

A reporter died? Russia’s just mad some else stole their kill.

[–] Sauvandu59@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago

Not surprising, both side had been using cluster bomb from the beginning.