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[–] blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io 154 points 5 days ago (12 children)

There's a "joke" that if you put 3 leftists in a room, out comes 5 political parties.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 55 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

That makes sense, one for each of them, and two to span their differences whilst keeping the most extreme differences furthest apart (so 5 all up). Typical lefties, reproducing the parliamentary liberalism that society is currently based on.

I suspect if you put three conservatives in a room you'd either get one dead, one too scared to talk, and one covered in blood... Or, three far right loonies calling for the death of all gay people, who all just had their first gay experience and plan to keep that fact secret.

Conservatives, they'll either kill something or fuck it, and either way they're gonna lie about it later.

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[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 42 points 5 days ago (1 children)

People’s front of Judea or gtfo

[–] loweffortname@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Judean People's Front for life!

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

You can't annoy someone into becoming differently-hearted about abortion, the death penalty, religion in the public arena, taxes and their governmental expenditures, or any sort of organized culturally elite stylized policies. Even though we domesticate animals some humans have had repeatedly bad experiences with the cultural domestication process.

And politics relies upon these eternal differences.

They will hate leftist policy because it means that bullying becomes harder to do. Controlling resources is now out of their hands in a very direct way, and usually people that need to dominate resources to feel safe will not abide by others having access to resources that they can't control the tap to.

And so that gets transformed one way or another. If they are big and have no problem doing crime they roll that.

If they are big and they start with a problem with crime then they roll blue. That system creates a whole 'nather version of criminality and there is no cure for it there, either.

Then you have the leftist which is usually someone that has been bullied enough to recognize oppression yet has not the power nor the force to make change.

And yet when they do ...

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

What the people who say that actually mean is, "I was on your sports team until you told me what your sports team stood for."

It's an "I voted Democrat because muh daddy voted Democrat and his daddy voted Democrat" situation. They were always Republicans, they just were too ignorant to pay attention and realize it.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 84 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Those stories are so fake. "I used to be a leftist, then I was mildly annoyed by something. Now I'm ragingTrumpist!"

[–] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 65 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Same energy as born again Christians trying to convert me from atheism.

"I used to be you!"

No, you were a slightly less annoying version of you. You don't know me at all.

[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 30 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Sorry to dump this out here, but I have dealt with this shit since I was a teen and I'm mad tonight about some other shit.

That's because they think everyone who isn't hardcore christian is unhappy and questioning their choices every day, just waiting on god to help.

I'm hard agnostic. That doesn't mean I'm questioning. That means I believe that we can't possibly know any more than a bacteria can fathom what I am. They're convinced that means I'm not sure if their god exists and I desperately want them to show me the light.

You know how I know what they think? It's how I was raised. It's the literal words that came out of their mouths. Luckily it's been years since anyone other than a Jehovah's Witness tried to convert me to anything and I just tell them "I think god is dead so I'm trying to get on Satan's good side by having sex outside of marriage and killing. Which do you prefer?"

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[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 25 points 5 days ago

"I had different principles and values until someone hurt my feelings on the internet."

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 46 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Anyone who says they became a right-winger because they hated their fellow left-wingers is lying.

But, of course, every word uttered by a conservative is deception or manipulation. Every word.

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 4 days ago (2 children)

not fellow left-wingers - one way many people get pushed right is by watching right wing content that just shows lefties acting like idiots and then goes "omg look SJWs so dumb". So people get turned off from feminism or progressivism before they have a chance to actually engage with it. Then, there's only one direction to go when frustration sets in - right.

Just look at the amount of ragebait on (conventional) social media showing feminists or queer activists or woke people acting cringe. It's the first step of the right-wing pipeline.

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[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

yeah exactly, imagine abandoning your entire worldview because someone was mean to you one too many times. You'd need to have no moral compass nor a spine to do that

~~if a fellow leftie is mean to me i just call them a tankie and move on with my life /j~~

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[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 41 points 4 days ago (13 children)

Seeing myself as center-left...

For my family, I'm the one who is left...

For the guys on hexbear, I'm far-right.

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[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Agreed, I personally voted for Kamala Harris (early voting) however I cannot pretend that she is a good candidate.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Agreed, I personally voted for Kamala Harris (early voting)

It's a shit situation to have the candidates we do, but unironically, thank you for making the choice that makes it less likely that millions will suffer needlessly. I'll be limping my ass down on election day to cast that same vote.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

If Kamala wins I hope Liberals can use the next four years to actually do something (unlike Biden), hopefully ranked choice voting will be in and the electoral college will be out

[–] Hackworth@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

From left to right - Student loans forgiven ($175 Billion)

Student loans that would have been forgiven without R fuckery ($430 Billion)

Total federal student loan debt ($1.6 Trillion)

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Wouldn't hold my breath on the electoral college. The process for a constitutional amendment is unlikely. Ranked choice and the NPVIC are both doable, in more states, at least, if not all, I think, if we put our efforts forward, especially with the momentum gained on the former and the VP speaking out against the electoral college on the latter.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

The process for a constitutional amendment is unlikely.

Agreed. The Equal Rights Amendment was super popular with both Democrats and Republicans and they still couldn't get enough states to ratify it.

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[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 42 points 5 days ago (4 children)

It’s true.

Rural gun owner leftist vs Seattle leftist. Cage match at 9pm central time.

Industrial worker in a union vs. woke college kid.

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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 44 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm in this picture, and I don't like it.

[–] kometes@lemmy.world 26 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You are annoying me right now.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 29 points 5 days ago (6 children)

I would expect nothing less.

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[–] bamfic@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago

If you are a leftist it is sooo easy to troll other leftists. Right wingers are missing out on all the fun.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago (3 children)

RIGHT? Like I'm voting blue no matter who at least until the GOP fixes its fascism problem (if it ever does), but at the same time shut the fuck up I don't care about your 37 gender identities or pescatarian diet or whatever

[–] auzy@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

The only people who rant about that stuff is the right wing

I'm straight but have lots of lgbtiq friends, and conversations like that never come up.

It's oddly enough the right wing who bring that conversation up constantly and exaggerate it

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

And then they blow up the conversation like you're crazy.

"... I don't care what they do"

"But whatabout blah blah blah"

"Yeah, whatever. Why is this even an issue to you? How many Trans people are in your life. Your life. Personally."

"That's not the point!"

"I think it is."

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

For the anti-gay party they sure seem to spend a lot of their time thinking about dicks

[–] auzy@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I actually operate an indoor rock climbing group and didn't even realise how many of them were gay until years of climbing with them. 2 of them I'm still not sure. 1 of them I only figured it out because they had a climbing shirt on with a lgbtiq climbing community logo on it (and they actually operate that organisation)

The hilarious part of the whole thing is that they spent years trying to trigger libs. But ultimately online, they've managed to create their own self sustaining trigger circle that mainly affects them. That they use to accumulate their whining. Whereas the rest of us now just see them as crazies.

That doesn't mean there are people on the left who aren't crazy. But, that seems confined online. Whereas the right often seem to extend it offline because many seemingly don't know the difference between reality and conspiracy theories anymore

One thing you'll notice about the right wing is that so many of them have a huge number of comments. Probably because most of them I suspect are retirees who jerked around during high school. It's easy to comment when there is no attempt at supporting evidence

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

You would think so, but there's a certain user here who expects us all to play along with their stated gender. Their stated gender is the name of a mythical animal.

Somehow no one has played along.

Other than that specific person though, I have yet to meet a queer person who had an issue with being called 'they/them' even if their preferred pronouns are 'zir' or whatever. My wife works with multiple nonbinary people (librarians are an eclectic bunch). None of them expect you to call them by their preferred pronoun. They just don't want you to intentionally misgender them either.

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[–] Crankenstein@lemmy.world 29 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

Literally annoyed right now because some dimwit fighting ghosts, saying that I was advocating for tolerance of right-wing fascism, because I said that the Balkanization strategy was not the strat in reply to a third individual's comment.

Also trying to say something about vulcanization, but idk what the chemical process of mixing rubber with sulfur has to do with geopolitics.

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[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

No matter what you call yourself even within the left, someone will jump down your throat about it. And labels keep shifting so it's a no win. You call yourself liberal and people are like "you're a liberal?! You're literally worse than Satan!" I thought being liberal as opposed to conservative was a good thing but ok. Nobody is good enough anymore, it's just every subgenre of leftists arguing about who is worse

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