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[–] thejml@lemm.ee 98 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I thought this was fake or a bad result or something, but totally just duplicated it. Wow.

If you read the block of text…. It doesn’t make sense either.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 67 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I expect if you follow the references you'd find one of them to be one of those "if Earth was a grain of sand" analogies.

People like laughing at AI but usually these silly-sounding answers accurately reflect the information the search returned.

[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 month ago (19 children)

It's in the quote that they scaled it.

The point is that the entire alleged value is the ability to parse the reading material and extract the key points, but because it doesn't resemble intelligence in any way, it isn't actually capable of meaningfully doing so.

Yes, not being able to distinguish between the real answer and a "banana for scale" analogy is a big problem that shows how fucking useless the technology is.

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It’s in the quote that they scaled it.

Yes but they supposedly scaled it to "one meter per meter". A "scale where the distance from the Sun to Earth is 150 million km" is the actual distance.

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[–] gaterush@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I just tried and got "about 40,000 billion kilometers". Also the references are completely different from the ones in the post, so I guess it was a ranking issue

AI is just too unpredictable, hard to know what's accurate and you end up doing the work yourself anyways

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[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 65 points 1 month ago (3 children)

A great deal of energy, hardware and software went into providing that wrong answer.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We should leave AI to the realm of producing fringe/impossible porn, like it was meant for and like what everyone actually wants from it. All this "search engine" stuff is just cover like when you buy some non-lube products like groceries along with the tube of astroglide at 1:00 AM.

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[–] Jackcooper@lemmy.world 51 points 1 month ago
[–] mercano@lemmy.world 51 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You may think it’s a long way down the road to the chemist’s, but that’s just peanuts to space.

[–] A_A@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The hitchhiker's guide to the Galaxy, Chapter 8.
(...)
”Space,” it says, ”is big. Really big. You just won’t believe how vastly hugely mindboggingly big it is. I mean you may think it’s a long way down the road to the chemist, but that’s just peanuts to space. Listen . . . ” and so on.

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[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Space is small. You just won't believe how itsy, bitsy, mind-bogglingly tiny it is. I mean, you may think it's long way to the fridge, but that's just peanuts to space

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Space is small.

The diameter of the entire observable universe is not even a full ronnameter.

[–] floral_toxicity@lemmy.world 42 points 1 month ago

That's a big fucking problem if true. Albeit a short lived problem.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 42 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

Like every tool, it has its uses...but they are not those being advertised. LLMs are great for things where mistakes don't detract from the result (or even add to it) like brainstorming, art, music, disinformation...all that good stuff.

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (3 children)

That's what I think too. AI is mainly useful for things that don't have right or wrong answers.

Although this incorrect answers is obvious, what about all the times where an incorrect answer from AI is not obvious?

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[–] DannyBoy@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Have you gone 13.6 km up there to verify it's not there?

[–] ulkesh@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (4 children)

13.6km is 44,619ft.

So nearly every time one flies commercial, yes, since cruising altitude is between 30,000 and 40,000 feet. I think a large triple-star system would be quite visible at that point.

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[–] profdc9@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago (8 children)

AI is statistically generated word salad.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Yah I'm so happy every major internet and tech company is deciding to deliberately power every system we use with random word salad generators, there's no chance will cause any problems.

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[–] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago (2 children)

In very next line, it says the distance is 4.37 lightyears away... which is also wrong, lol

For anyone wondering, the actual correct answer is about 4.25 lightyears or about 40 trillion kilometers.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 month ago (3 children)

These are all equally confusing. How many American football fields?

[–] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In scientific terms? An absolute fuck-ton of football fields.

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[–] DLSantini@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Approximately 437,445,319,335,083 of those.

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[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Relying on LLM for any facts without verifying is playing with fire.

[–] ulkesh@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

I suspect there’s a quite-overlapping Venn diagram of people who rely on LLMs for their “facts” with people who believe the earth is flat and people who believe ancient aliens are real.

[–] lunarul@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So really no excuse when the vogons come

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There's no excuse anyway. The plans were very prominently displayed.

[–] Ixoid@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago

On display? I finally found them in the bottom of a locked filling cabinet in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying "Beware of the leopard".

[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago

Forgive Bing. It’s American and doesn’t know the metric system.

I’m burrrrning!

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Stargate is a documentary.

[–] Squibbles@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 month ago

It's measuring the distance to your nearest copy of Sid Myers alpha centari

[–] Intheflsun@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Good golly, someone make some chocolate chip cookies, we're going to have to go and welcome them to the neighborhood. Damn rude no one said anything sooner.

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

13.6 kilometers ought to be enough for anybody.

[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Hey, I have a half tank of gas, I think I will go check it out.

[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It’s ~~126 miles to Chicago~~ 13.6 kilometers to Alpha Centauri, we’ve got a full tank of gas, half a pack off cigarettes, it’s dark, and we’re wearing sunglasses.

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[–] _bcron@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (4 children)

AI sure is gonna be weird if we preface any question involving dimensions with some dumb arbitrary scale as reference.

Depending on trim and accessories, the 2025 Chevrolet Silverado weighs anywhere from 1454 to 1533 watermelons

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[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well then, what are we waiting for? Let's go visit Alpha Centauri!

[–] yuki2501@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

When techbros said "you can type a question and the AI will answer", they seem to have forgotten that we expect the answers to be true and accurate.

And they seem to have forgotten that to do that, they actually need a database of facts.

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[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I have a copy of the Alpha Centauri game about 13.6 meters from me.

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[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Like, are we sure? Has someone actually checked?

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[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

That's why it's been so gosh darn hot.

[–] punkwalrus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

That explains why it's so hot outside.

[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

41.5 petameters.

Nobody using the metric system says "trillion kilometers"! 🌞

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[–] _edge@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 month ago

Yes, but it feels longer with all the traffic jams.

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