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[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 122 points 7 months ago (3 children)

wouldn't want you to make me uncomfortable

How about sign a bill to have proper doors on stalls so no one can see you? Then it doesn't matter.

[–] Anise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 7 months ago

This has nothing to do with bathrooms, privacy, or "protecting women." The entire intent of laws like these is to attack trans people and make it effectively illegal to be trans in public. Fascists need a minority enemy in order to maintain power and we are their latest favourite punching bag.

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[–] toomanypancakes@lemmy.world 77 points 7 months ago (4 children)

If I ever go to Mississippi I guess I'm gonna have to piss on the governor's mansion instead

[–] nick@midwest.social 71 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (15 children)

Why would you ever do something so disgusting?

Go to Mississippi I mean, it’s the literal worst state in the worst country.

[–] Kalkaline@leminal.space 26 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You don't know how much that means to me as a Texan. I was thinking we were the worst, but you give me hope.

[–] AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)

As a former Floridian, I thought Florida was the worst.

No, wait, I'm pretty sure Florida is still the worst, but Mississippi is going to be joining Florida on Erin's Do Not Travel list. :(

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[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 69 points 7 months ago (2 children)

People are starving and unhoused and this is the shit they choose to focus on. People should be mad

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 56 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

People are starving and unhoused and that's exactly why they're focusing on this. To distract people from the source of their actual issues. Bread and circuses.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 7 months ago (4 children)

As a circus performer, I'd rather not be dragged down to the level of these shit heads.

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

No no, I don't intend to besmirch circuses. It's a phrase attributed to a second century AD Roman poet, referring to politicians generating public approval by providing diversion instead of fixing the root causes of issues or even handling those issues at all.

We could also say "bread and games".

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[–] Plume@lemmy.blahaj.zone 60 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

I was talking to my therapist yesterday about this, before this news dropped. How I couldn't wait to get my new ID card with an F on it so that I could finally go to the bathroom without too much fear. If someone happened to spot that maybe I was trans, I could just put it out and say "look, I'm a woman" and walk away.

But she was in disbelief at this. She genuinely couldn't wrap her head around the idea of someone making a scene because a trans person was in their bathroom. Like, at first, she thought I was blowing up a non existent issue. "Who would do this?!", she asked, And I told her it was an actual issue that lots of people were doing it and therefore lots of trans people avoided the bathroom like the plague.

And when I told her about some US states new laws, taking Utah as an example, her jaw dropped. She had this look of utter disappointment, like I had just chipped away a piece of her faith in humanity.

Not only did the idea never crossed her mind, she couldn't even conceive why it would be a problem. I laughed at this and told her: "That's because you're a normal person."

Just wanted to share this with all of you, especially fellow trans people. It's good to know that while some people are mentally deranged at the idea of my existence, It not only seems to be a very loud minority, but it also seems to be a repellent for a lot of people who cannot grasp their obsessions.

Seeing someone who isn't really aware of our issues in the first place being shocked at these things was relieving. It felt good and gave me hope.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 44 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Even though I rationally understand it, I still have a hard time wrapping my head around it. Let someone shit in peace. If I'm in the men's room and someone comes in there that looks like a woman dressed as a man, I couldn't care less.

In fact, if someone came into the men's room and looked like Marylin Monroe in the famous white dress, I couldn't care less.

Piss, shit, whatever.

Just don't talk to me. I'm not in there to make friends.

[–] Plume@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Imagine going to the bathroom, just to take a shit! How fucking weird, right? (/s)

...seriously, I wonder what these people imagine we're doing in the bathroom. Or hell, what are they doing in the bathroom that warrant such worries?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 25 points 7 months ago (3 children)

They like to bring up the "a man could wear a dress and go into the women's room and rape a little girl" canard. To which I reply, "they'd probably get away with that more easily if they wore a janitor's uniform. We really should ban janitors from bathrooms."

They don't care for that suggestion.

[–] Plume@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 7 months ago (9 children)

I may be pulling something out of my ass but I honestly can't be bothered to check. But, wasn't this something that was said about lesbian women too? That they shouldn't be allowed in women's bathroom because they would pry on other women and so on?

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago (2 children)

There’s three acceptable forms of communication in the restroom: functional (eg after you), quick compliments on outfit/makeup (some dislike it but it grew on me), and the far too drunk lady who speaks the wisdom she cannot possess

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[–] StrawberryPigtails@lemmy.sdf.org 56 points 7 months ago (5 children)

The thing that gets me with this is, how is anyone to know?

If you present as the gender on the door, what are they going to do? Rip your pants down and check? Cop a feel? That’s assault. Peep through the stall? Pretty sure that’s a misdemeanor, most places.

I get the idea behind this is terror, but “Fuck off! I’m shitting here!” should be the only response anyone should get to a nosy question in the bathroom.

[–] Plume@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

It's because these people have the "we can always tell" mentality. But then they're the same people who go harass trans guys on Twitter telling them that they will never be women....

[–] Soulg@sh.itjust.works 10 points 7 months ago

They have an outdated idea of trans people and think that trans women are literally just guys in dresses (kinda like 80s transvestites, if that word is still usable). So they expect to see fucking Frankenfurter from Rocky horror or Eddie Izzard (she's fantastic and all but let's not kid ourselves that she's what they expect trans women to look like)

[–] acetanilide@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Well considering that one woman literally pulled another woman's skirt down (not all the way) because she felt it was too short, in front of other people, and then called 911 herself, I wouldn't put it past someone in a bathroom to do worse if they "suspected" someone was trans, whether or not they actually are

Also I'm sorry for all the commas but I already did it and I don't want to edit it lol

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[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 55 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Can't wait for all the dudes walking into the ladies room simply because of chromosomes. They never consider the reverse when dog whistling...

[–] GoddessOfGouda@lemmy.world 56 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Pretty sure this already happened to a trans guy once and you wouldn’t guess what they did…. They were mad about a man in the women’s room 🤦‍♀️

[–] HopeOfTheGunblade@kbin.social 34 points 7 months ago (1 children)

He got beat up and arrested.

[–] Plume@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 7 months ago

You how they say, "it's not a bug, it's a feature"? Well...

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[–] GoddessOfGouda@lemmy.world 38 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Can trans people sue cis people for harassment then?

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[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 34 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I would always always always rather go to the bathroom with a trans person rather than a conservative. Those people are truly dangerous, and trans people are awesome. They also are not the ones who randomly decide to shoot someone for existing.

All conservatives are trash.

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[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 28 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Mississippi governor volunteers to be a piss-bucket

[–] Maddier1993@programming.dev 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Let the rest of NA band together and start calling them pississippi and let their residents scratch their heads

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[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 28 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ok, so what if dad brings his 3-year-old daughter into the men’s room, or mom brings her infant son into the ladies room? Can I sue over the emotional trauma that caused me?

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[–] Artyom@lemm.ee 27 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I assume that integrated into this bill are guaranteed rights that trans people can countersue for harassment and defamation if they are misgendered while using the legally mandated bathroom.

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 27 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Typical fascist America.

In fascist capitalist America, they check your genitalia before you use the bathroom.

Every American criticizes North Korea and China for much less.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 25 points 7 months ago (2 children)

You don't have to live next to me

Just give me my equality

Everybody knows about Mississippi

Everybody knows about Alabama

Everybody knows about Mississippi, goddamn

Nina Simone sang it about the black experience in Mississippi in the 1960s. With a couple of minor lyrics changes, it could be about the queer experience today.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 7 months ago

Oh, awesome! Cause that's what I need when I'm struggling. I don't need health care. I don't need a livable wage. I don't need equal rights. I need to sue trans people.

See? Repubs are giving us a path to success. Just sue a trans person who maybe has no money to pay out and everything is fine!

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago

Today, in "problems only people that check other people's private in bathroom have"…

[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 20 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Those poor judges who want to deal with legitimate cases

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Oh the fifth circuit is SO excited for this

Edit: I had to google to double check, but yes, Mississippi is part of the fifth circuit (ones of the most conservative appeals courts in the USA)

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[–] 5in1k@lemm.ee 20 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That governor looks like an adult baby. Creepy pedo vibes for sure

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago (4 children)

If by some foul twist of fate I ever find myself in Mississippi, and by some cruel trick of the Gods I have to use a bathroom in mississippi, and someone while I'm peeing decides to look and check to make sure I have a penis my first instinct would be to shoot that person.

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[–] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I was wondering if Alabama would somehow be the worst for a while, there's always Mississippi

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[–] robocall@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Where are people supposed to shit?!

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago

Where does their state congress meet? Inside their desks sounds reasonable to me.

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[–] TheControlled@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago

This is some hardcore Jim Crow level shit.

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[–] nifty@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Does this also affect any private establishment that wants to have a non-gendered bathroom? Like can those businesses sue the government for overreach for putting an onerous burden on their business for needing more than one bathroom?

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago (8 children)

Conservatives are cockroaches.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Cockroaches are just a nuisance. Republicans are cancer.

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[–] FanciestPants@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I'm not Trans, and abso-fucking-lutely don't want anyone asking what I've got between my legs anytime I need to take a shit.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 12 points 7 months ago

Sounds like people need to start suing the Mississippi governor every time they use a bathroom and demand a genital exam.

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