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Bernie is one of the few senators that actually understands the opportunity barriers that young people face in the US. That said, I’m going to feel pretty hypocritical backing his candidacy, while I’ve said his 80+ year old colleagues are too old for the job.
He’s still sharp as a damn tack, but at some point, you’re just at a very high risk of the machinery breaking down on the job.
I’m going to feel pretty hypocritical backing his candidacy, while I’ve said his 80+ year old colleagues are too old for the job.
It's okay to acknowledge exceptions to a general rule.
Another exception: If I remember correctly, Bernie was the only presidential candidate (last time he ran) with the open intention of getting money out of politics. That and replacing the first-past-the-post voting system would unlock US political reform, IMHO.
I am supporting him and even going donate. Sad he can't retire but I feel he only Senator trying to fight conservatism in the government. Wish he was running for president. Maybe in 2028.
Senate is a 6 year term so he'll be 88 at the end if he survives.
Besides just being with his family, the most important thing he could be doing is finding a replacement with similar politics to him and endorsing the shit out of them. Otherwise when he dies it will be a blood bath that might not end up with a progressive like him.
He's going to pull an RBG....
Vermont, at worst, will elect a moderate Democrat. And likely will elect someone similar to him as a replacement. Things can't really get very messed up by his untimely demise
Which is the opposite of how things were with RBG
"liberal icon"
The only two acceptable viewpoints are "liberal" and "conservative", so center-right to far-right. Everything else is extremism and has no place in current politics.
Blame Rush Limbaugh. He turned 'liberal' into a word that means 'anyone and everyone to the left of the current Republican party agenda.'
Is it fair to blame one dead radio fascist for the originating nation of liberalism (arguably) not being able to define liberal anymore?
The issue seems a bit more systemic than that.
Bernie Sanders: I am a democratic socialist
AP: Well known liberal
"Liberal" sheesh way to insult the man for being a hero to the working class.
Bernie is too far left to be a liberal. Good luck to him though.
The correct term is "progressive."
They don't want people hearing it, because progressives actually want to reduce the disparity in wealth.
Liberals, conservatives, and especially libertarians do not.
The correct term is "progressive."
The term is actually Democratic Socialist. Which he has repeatedly reiterated in highly televised settings for 9 years, and in less televised setting for decades before that
Though Social Democrat may be more accurate in some respects.
Either way, "progressive" is a weasel word label that neoliberals use to cloak themselves in the language of the left. See: Hillary and Pete
Hillary "Campaigns with Kissinger after we knew he sabotaged Vietnamese peace talks to get a job" Clinton
Well shit.
I misread what was on the ticker on TV. I thought he was running for president.
I’d be okay with that. Bernie and gore as presidents would have changed the face of the nation.
Now we’re fucked to either swirl the toilet or force the cosmic plumber to break out a plunger.
I'd rather see him mentor a young candidate and pass on his legacy.
Seconded. Bernie is going to be really hard to replace. He’s about as solid as they come when it comes to being pretty much exactly who he has always been. Anyone that comes in after has a far higher chance of being a standard neo-lib.
Love Bernie but it’s time to move over for someone younger.
Old politicians are like old teachers who just can't seem to retire. It's really weird. I love Bernie too and think the same thing.
Yes, his seat is safely blue if he has to quit early, but meanwhile someone younger isn't getting the experience to lead into the future.
I would say AOC fits that description. No reason why we can't have both at the same time. There just aren't enough people like them.
AOC is in New York. Bernie is in Vermont.
The only reasonable replacement would be Howard Dean.
Vermont is a very small state. Bernie is an OG with ties to actual radical movements. Dean, not so much.
For a senator of Vermont, Bernie is fine. For the population, his age isn't as problematic; we don't have as many viable candidates.
When it comes to something like president? Absolutely. But also, Bernie should have been president twice, and Biden, Hillary, and Trump all know it. Bernie isn't bowing out of the game before them if he can help it, and I don't blame him.
I was referring to the old giving way to the young, not explicitly who should fill Bernie's seat in Vermont.
Because the young are already here, working alongside the old. And that's better than the alternatives. The biggest problem is that you can count people of Bernie & AOC's caliber (people who prioritize human wellbeing above financial gain & personal power) on one hand.
I do. I blame him. How are we supposed to cultivate the next generation of progressive leadership when the previous one refuses to leave?
And I don't care if it’s ageist. 80 year olds have no business being in positions this important. I’m sick of seeing people being literally wheeled into the Senate chambers to cast votes before being sent back to a hospital.
I mean if you're not a Vermonter it doesn't really make a difference to you. You're not going to get a Vermonter more radically left in that seat. If you want left, Bernie is your best bet second to Dean.
He's a Senator. This doesn't just affect Vermont. Having yet another Senator over the age of 85 will absolutely make a difference to me! I just can't vote on it because I live in Ohio.
Not when your goal is radical left and your candidate is Bernie Sanders.
I'm really conflicted here. I love Bernie, and I'm afraid of a cooperate centrist taking the place of one of the few truly progressive votes in the Senate, but 82 is way to old to be signing up for another term. He still seems as sharp as ever, but will that be true for another 6 years? I don't want to see him go out like Diane Feinstein.
Run for president instead, you would win this time, I swear
The DNC would nominate a literal puppet -- strings and all as a nominee instead of giving Bernie the nomination because they know he would win and actually make them work for the people again.
Dude's 82. I'd vote for him, fuck I'd almost die to get him into office, but it is not a job for such an age. He's stressed as hell already, the presidency would almost definitely kill him with how awful being president is. He could seriously do a lot of good for us but he's gotta worry about himself too.
Ew. Don't say squelch.
Also: Eww, don't slander him by calling him a liberal
... Squelching?
Seems like they landed right in-between squashing and quelling.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/squelch
1
a : to fall or stamp on so as to crush
b
(1)
: to completely suppress : quell
squelch resistance
(2)
: silence
squelched the protesters
Forgive the loss of formatting, but it's perfectly valid. They say sense 1a dates from at least 1624, before the invention of radio (1895), so it's not like it was made up for radio and then used more generally.
Squelching is a word but I normally see it in shortwave radio terminology.
Yeah, it either means something in an electronics context, or describes the sound made when squeezing something mucky.
Definitely not the word they were looking for here.